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10th June 2008, 02:12 AM
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|  What to do when you have a nasty, possibly evil, boss? She is seriously mental. I usually avoid loud obnoxious people, but when they’re your boss…what do you do? I don’t want to devote any energy to battling her! She'll pick people daily to terrorize about the most inappropriate things. For example - We've got Catholic world youth day happening here in Sydney in a month or so. The guy at the next desk had a newspaper on his desk that had an article about it open on his desk. He wasn't even reading the article, but she used this as an opening to start calling him "catholic boy". He asked for annual leave a week or so later, she said “Getting ready for youth day?” He's an atheist so it wasn’t completely offensive, but when he said "settle down" she played the victim and said "oh its just a joke, toughen up". A hard tactic to deal with. She offends you, but if you say anything she becomes the victim. Sometimes my turn comes around. My hair is going [as long as my ears are fine I could care less!] and recently they were talking about someone who just had a baby, and how much hair it had grown so quickly. She said "Yea it has more hair than you!". ?! Who the hell says stuff like this? I mean I'm not a particularly weak person, but everyone has their limits. I started growing a beard in the last few weeks, so then come the comments about; am I converting to islam, or [chatting loudly to another boss behind my desk] "I heard men grow beards when they start going bald". I need this job to buy gear and pay for studio time, but sometimes you just wanna go postal! Why can't we all just be friendly and get along?  |
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10th June 2008, 04:27 AM
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| Hey wreckd, despite the workplace agreements we have, or whatever Kevin is changing the rules to, employers have to be very careful about how they conduct themselves in regards to employees. Several of the comments your boss has made could be proven to be discriminatory on religious and physical grounds. Of course, most places have some @ssholes attached, and you have to weigh it up as to what sort of hassles it's going to cause you if you complained about it to someone higher up. If you try explaining to your boss next time she cracks a poor taste joke that you find it offensive and ask politely that she refrains from such comments, it at least means she can't say she wasn't aware, BUT - make sure you say it with someone else around. You need witnesses for that sort of thing. It may be that she is just thoughtless and doesn't realize, but she can't sack you for not taking her sh!t. Also talk to some other employees and get their take on it. There is safety in numbers.
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10th June 2008, 05:56 AM
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10th June 2008, 06:52 AM
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| contact hr and document the situations. I would say inform your supervisor but it sounds like she is your supervisor. There should be some kind of policy that she is obviously not abiding to.....or shall i say several sections of that policy? |
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10th June 2008, 09:53 AM
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| she can't fire you for telling her to "grow up"... does she own the company? Or the next time she says something pull her up on it - first in private - something about "inappropriate behaviour" - the second time, in front of other people. She's a bully. Most importantly - stay very very calm. |
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10th June 2008, 06:51 PM
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| Tell her to get her b_tch a$$ in the kitchen and make you a pie!  |
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10th June 2008, 07:56 PM
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| I used to work for a software company where the head boss was manic depressive/psycho.. It all used to trickle down thru the building and made everyone on edge. The bigger problem was that we didnt have a HR dept so you couldnt talk to anyone in confidence about any issues...
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10th June 2008, 08:23 PM
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10th June 2008, 08:27 PM
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| Next time she has a go, record her on ur phone and upload it to youtube  Don't forget to share the link with us..  |
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11th June 2008, 12:04 AM
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Had an awesome session last night, got so much done. Wouldn't have been able to pay for it without my crappy job, so sometimes I see the point to it all! I agree with the calm approach, though its so tempting to just go  .I think instead I’ll just hand my resume out to some other places of employment...after I get some footage for the lulz. | ||
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11th June 2008, 02:58 AM
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| Get a diary, and carefully log every offensive thing that she does for a couple of months, noting clearly what was said or done to whom, and exactly when, and then make your complaint to the relevant senior manager or government body with a diary to back it up. It makes a huge difference if you can show specifics and times and dates. Note down things word for word so that there can be no ambiguity. No-one should be subjected to bastards like her in their workplace, it is way to stressful to have your own life ruled by someone else's retarded personality, but these kinds of people are tricky, so it is essential that before you go on the attack that you have clear and specific written notes on exactly what was said and done over a period of time, otherwise she will go on the attack herself with denials and deceptions. Diaries are powerful things in cases like this, because in a confrontation she is relying on memory, whereas your case has none of the vagarities of memory, you have documents from the day of the event. |
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11th June 2008, 08:31 AM
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Document everything (anything in writing is priceless), get witnesses where possible, inform your doctor of the stress you are under and sue the bitch for harrasment and bullying. You are paid to fulfill your job description, not to be some figure of fun for some unfulfilled loser of a boss.
__________________ You know if you play New Kids on the Block albums backwards they sound better. "Oh come on, Bill, they're the New Kids, don't pick on them, they're so good and they're so clean cut and they're such a good image for the children." F**k that! When did mediocrity and banality become a good image for your children? I want my children to listen to people who f*****g ROCKED! I don't care if they died in puddles of their own vomit! I want someone who plays from his f*****g HEART! Bill Hicks | |
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11th June 2008, 01:28 PM
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|  what he said look up 'constructive dismissal', get some advice...
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12th June 2008, 12:30 AM
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12th June 2008, 12:45 PM
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| I think the gods are messing with me. So the BIG boss calls me into his office for a meeting today. No notice, nothing. I'm thinking I'm dead, he's going to tell me he's an audio engineer hobbyist and was on GS when he was reading.... but no. He thinks i'm doing a bang up job and gave me a 3k raise. WHHHYYY. More money is good, but my boss is still a nutjob. Its like life sometimes just enjoys toying with your sanity. |
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12th June 2008, 02:30 PM
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12th June 2008, 07:39 PM
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| Not knowing you and not knowing your boss, no one here can really say. For all I know you're one of those overly sensitive types that take everything personally. One persons playful joking is another's highly offensive attitude. My first reaction is to tell you to grow a pair of testicles... Either put her in her place without getting yourself into trouble or go above her and resolve the situation. If you find you're the only one in the office willing to say something about it to her superiors, you may want to consider that you might be more of a overly sensitive person than you thought.
__________________ "I know that most men, including those at ease with problems of the greatest complexity, can seldom accept even the simplest and most obvious truth if it be such as would oblige them to admit the falsity of conclusions which they have delighted in explaining to colleagues, which they have proudly taught to others, and which they have woven, thread by thread, into the fabric of their lives." Tolstoy Scott Benson www.syborgstudios.com |
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12th June 2008, 09:00 PM
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12th June 2008, 10:26 PM
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Appreciate the contribution, but you're right you don't know me! Everyone avoids her, the first 100 odd times she was a bitch I thought that maybe it was me, but she dishes it out to everyone. I have served it back to her many a time, and all it does is give her reason to keep targeting me. Recently i've taken the shut the hell up approach and she gets bored quickly, and now she's toying with the new guy. The other peoples approaches are varied, some tell her openly to fck off [boss's brother mainly], some bitch about her behind her back, others organise secret pub meetings after work without her not to talk about her, but just so to have time without having to deal with her. I can't be bothered with it. I think my approach will what others [helpfully] mentioned, I'm gonna have a chat with her and tape it. If she continues, keep notes. Some things you don't have to put up with. | ||
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12th June 2008, 10:42 PM
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What exactly do you hope the outcome will be if you keep notes and tape her? | |
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12th June 2008, 11:31 PM
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12th June 2008, 11:48 PM
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Its a sucky position to be in that is for sure. I think if you are going to fight this fight then you should be prepared to quit and find another job. This seems like one of those cases when you win you still lose. | |
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13th June 2008, 09:59 AM
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| spend the next couple of months documenting. get some advice on the basis of what you gather. if it looks like you've got a case going, find a new job, then sue and take it to the bank if you score against her, other disgruntled colleagues may start preparing cases too. she'll either have to modify her behaviour or start looking for a new job meantime suck it up. and remember, this stuff ALWAYS tastes better from the chill cabinet 
__________________ "I can only tell you that if you get the whole lot of minims crotchets and quavers mixed up together it is like an atomic xplosion cheers cheers cheers." 'There's only an 'o' between pop and poop.' 'Recorded by champs, mixed by chimps, mastered by chumps' |
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13th June 2008, 10:31 PM
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| Introduce her to you little friend....."Mr.Glock"
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16th June 2008, 06:13 AM
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17th June 2008, 06:41 PM
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Take the money for a while and look for something better. Good luck.
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17th June 2008, 09:36 PM
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| Even with the raise. If it was me, I would keep a journal (with dates & times) of all the abuse you have taken and all you have seen that bothers you. **AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED BY A FEW OTHERS** When you have a nice stack take it directly to her boss and let the know the harrassment has gone on and give them the proof. If they do nothing or she is warned and retaliates I would contact a laywer and see what they think. There may be a lawsuit, maybe not. Big money settlements are a great way to retire! Don't let yourself or your friends be pushed around. |
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18th June 2008, 08:42 AM
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| a) from the comments you supplied i think she's pretty funny. b) i think i would shoot it right back at her, maybe all she wants is a challenge... you'll find out soon enough. she may just think 'finally, someone stepped up to the plate!'... then again she may not. c) 'a' and 'b' are irrelevant if this stuff is really bothering you. d) how much do you really need the job? e) if this is more aggravation than its worth (no job is worth ruining your life over), oops, just read the $3K part. still, if you just can't hack it, f) jump ship, but not before you have another ship to jump to, and not before you say, f off! seems strange to me that she's being totally over the top with a slew of people that don't say anything though... but if they're all getting $3K raises, that may have something to do with it.  seriously, i have a friend that's very much the way you describe this lady. when he oversteps his bounds i let him have it, and everything is cool.... for awhile. it's not pleasant to get on that level but you gotta do what you gotta do i guess. still the guy is a good friend.... there are people that thrive on seeing how far they can push. he found that with me he can go only so far. we've been friends since 1984. just thought of something... when she's out, go to her 'puter and put this thread on her screen, editing the part that identifies you as you. a little reality check might do her some good. |
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18th June 2008, 05:11 PM
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| ask her on a date. lol
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18th June 2008, 05:14 PM
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| As people have said record her outbursts . I am also a fan of razor wit and have cut many people to size in workplace with it . A friend of mine had a unique solution to a similar problem , when the boss was out he stole his cup , crapped in it and placed it back on the bosses desk with captains log et al :D |
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