Neumann U67 Reissue - Is it TRUE?

[javl88]

I posted a thread about a U67 for sale on ebay, in which two other G/S mentioned a Neumann U67 reissue?

Also that it would be pricey! I don't think that will matter if it delivers the goods.

Does anyone have any info on this?

Joash

[leadplayer]

I think the "reissue" being referred to is the batch Neumann
made in 1992 (just 200 units). Modern power supply and the
mics made from original parts they found.

[SaxJordan]

If Neumann ever did reissue the u67 I think you would find 10 pages of people on gearslutz bashing it as the worst mic in history without having heard it

[Rob King]

Not quite the U67 but Neumann IS releasing a TLM67 like they did with the TLM49. Should be out in the coming months.

[Johnkenn]

A transformer-less 67...hmmm....

[Duardo]

Not quite the U67 but Neumann IS releasing a TLM67 like they did with the TLM49. Should be out in the coming months.

If that's the case, then it will suck for sure!

Kidding...but I'm sure, as alluded to above, we'll see plenty of those comments from people who haven't even seen one when the microphone is released...

[JOHN]

right now Se mic's rule for me they sound amazing. I have tried everthing I can get my hands on but Se mic's do it the best and cheap well made. Neumann mic's sound cold thin no transformers no color flat.
can't wait for the rupert neve & Se tube mic

[Duardo]

And that relates to this thread how?

The microphone that this thread is about...the U67...has tubes and transformers and I don't think that most people would describe it as "cold" or "thin"...

[Steffmo]

I owned one of those U67s from that batch in 1992. It came with a piece of the Berlin Wall, which still sits on my desk.

A once in a lifetime mic IMHO. It was stolen by that ring of mic thieves that hit many studios in the NYC area....1997ish...I try not to remember. whenever I hear a track cut with that mic it is instantly recognizable to me. My stomach freaks out.

I just sold the PSU and cable to a fellow Gearslut who wants to essentially build a U67. Hopefully the mic will live through that.

[Squawk]

Originally Posted by Duardo

And that relates to this thread how?

The microphone that this thread is about...the U67...has tubes and transformers and I don't think that most people would describe it as "cold" or "thin"...

True, but maybe cut JOHN a little slack here. This is actually the first post I've ever read of his where he actually stated an opinion, instead of just asking relentless "A" vs "B" questions..

JOHN, you are making progress..

[RuffJazzRecords]

wheres the contest. is it on the neumann site?

[Volodia]

Funny , when you google Neumann TLM67 , the only page that comes up is this one

[Pepe Ortega]

Originally Posted by studio1117

It is true. Neumann has just announced a new contest. The prize.....3 new TLM67's. I'm very eagerly awaiting more words on this mic. I knew there were rumblings. Awesome. If it's a tube, multi-pattern mic with the 67/670 capsule....I'm there

Originally Posted by RuffJazzRecords

wheres the contest. is it on the neumann site?

It´s a Joke, no real info on website.
Maybe Neumann must reissue the U67 again. Lots of people will buy the real thing..

[Sounds Great]

Originally Posted by studio1117

It is true. Neumann has just announced a new contest. The prize.....3 new TLM67's. I'm very eagerly awaiting more words on this mic. I knew there were rumblings. Awesome. If it's a tube, multi-pattern mic with the 67/670 capsule....I'm there

And it will sound about as close to a U67 as the M149 does to a U47.

[Duardo]

True, but maybe cut JOHN a little slack here. This is actually the first post I've ever read of his where he actually stated an opinion, instead of just asking relentless "A" vs "B" questions..

Nah...his post has no relation to this thread whatsoever and is just a shameless sE plug. No slack here.

And it will sound about as close to a U67 as the M149 does to a U47.

Maybe...although the new TLM49 seems to get more love around here than most of the recent Neumann microphones...maybe this will be more like that...

[meshuggener33]

Originally Posted by Steffmo

I owned one of those U67s from that batch in 1992. It came with a piece of the Berlin Wall, which still sits on my desk.

A once in a lifetime mic IMHO. It was stolen by that ring of mic thieves that hit many studios in the NYC area....1997ish...I try not to remember. whenever I hear a track cut with that mic it is instantly recognizable to me. My stomach freaks out.

I just sold the PSU and cable to a fellow Gearslut who wants to essentially build a U67. Hopefully the mic will live through that.

That is disgusting that people could steal something so dear to its owner. Tried a vintage 67 the other day. Gorgeous. I own a cm7gt which stood well against it albeit a different beast. One day I'll get a 67. My condolences for the loss :-)

[RuffJazzRecords]

Its right here.....

www.80yearsneumann.com

[peeder]

Originally Posted by Sounds Great

And it will sound about as close to a U67 as the M149 does to a U47.

Did they claim that? I think they said "in the heritage of" and it doesn't even have "47" in its name. The M147 has 47 in the name, and in the low bump, but I don't think they really argue that it is a reissue either. Maybe closer to the fet model.

If you want an old one, go pay for an old one. If you want a new mic with a new sound (perhaps "reminiscent") then try and see.

[Sounds Great]

Same caps, lots of different mics in Neuman and Gefell line. In most cases, the loss of the tranny = lost mojo. I.M.O.

Mojo don't come cheap.

[dylansmale]

the M149 looked nothing like a U47. The TLM67 has part of the same name and looks Identical to the original U67. And neumann has also made an actual reissue of the old U47 and U87, so really it makes sense to me that the TLM67 will sound almost identical to the U67.

[Sounds Great]

Originally Posted by dylansmale

the M149 looked nothing like a U47. The TLM67 has part of the same name and looks Identical to the original U67. And neumann has also made an actual reissue of the old U47 and U87, so really it makes sense to me that the TLM67 will sound almost identical to the U67.

Ok, then compare an M49 to the M149 if that'll make you feel better.

Vintage Microphones, Part 2: Neumann M49, M50, U67 and U87

[Meriphew]

Originally Posted by dylansmale

neumann has also made an actual reissue of the old U47 and U87

When did Neumann reissue the U47? As far as I know, the 87 never went out of production.

IMO, the TLM67 looks like another lame mic from Neumann/Sennheiser.

[peeder]

Originally Posted by Meriphew

IMO, the TLM67 looks like another lame mic from Neumann/Sennheiser.

Are you another dealer that got in a fight with Sennheiser, or are you just parrotting the one that did?

[psycho_monkey]

Originally Posted by dylansmale

the M149 looked nothing like a U47. The TLM67 has part of the same name and looks Identical to the original U67. And neumann has also made an actual reissue of the old U47 and U87, so really it makes sense to me that the TLM67 will sound almost identical to the U67.

have you ever even seen a Neumann mic? Or used one? Surely it's signal path, capsule etc is more important than what it looks like, reageding how it will sound?

I really don't know why you post crap like this one minute, and then ask a really basic question the next. No one actually attaches any credability to your posts...

[Kore]

Originally Posted by psycho_monkey

have you ever even seen a Neumann mic? Or used one? Surely it's signal path, capsule etc is more important than what it looks like, reageding how it will sound?

I really don't know why you post crap like this one minute, and then ask a really basic question the next. No one actually attaches any credability to your posts...

Amen to that.

[TanTan]

I'm not into bashing Neumann,

I'm quite sure this TLM67 will be an average modern mic.

I'm also sure you guys are gonna say "how do you judge a mic without hearing it ? etc." and there is one thing I'm sure of that Neumann just don't get.

What audio engineer would buy a transformerless version of: 1176,La-2a,1073,Fairchild,Pultecs ?? AMS Neve came out with a partly transformerless 33609 and at that point audio engineers preferred the old model so it's a FACT that high end gear consumers WANT transformers in their equipment

Neumann is making mics for the professional engineers in a way they don't like while it's very simple and i mean VERY VERY simple to manufact great sounding transformers, it's very easy and relatively cheap to buy great cores or create the same cores used in the classic models, and with todays machines (or with a 50 years old machine either) it shouldn't be more than one man's job to manufacture all the trannies for Neumann high end mics. one guess is Neumann has had enough of the professional market so the discussion should not take its place in the high end forum. nothing can touch any of the classic Neumanns (U47,U67,U87,KM54,KM84 etc.) they all have output transformers, so i guess the high enders aren't what Neumann is aiming to anymore.

I think most of the audio manufactures in the world has realised that electronically balanced equipment doesn't (subjectively) sound as good as transformer coupled equipment, it just measures lest distortion on scopes.

Originally Posted by dylansmale

the M149 looked nothing like a U47. The TLM67 has part of the same name and looks Identical to the original U67. And neumann has also made an actual reissue of the old U47 and U87, so really it makes sense to me that the TLM67 will sound almost identical to the U67.

WHAT ?! dude, come on..

[Le Lab]

From the AES this morning:

The TLM (transformer-less microphone) 67 will be on show at AES Europe alongside the Solution-D microphones, KMD miniature mics, and other products drawn from the Neumann portfolio.

A TLM 67 will be awarded to one entrant in each of the three categories that test participants' knowledge of musical history since the mid-20th century. The competition relating to music in the 1950s is already underway at the dedicated 80th anniversary website (www.80yearsneumann.com), with challenges concerning the 1970s and today's music scene set to open on 2nd June and 1st August, respectively.

"Eighty years of our company's history also stands for eighty years of famous songs and singers from all over the world using our microphones," Neumann Berlin's president marketing/sales, Wolfgang Fraissinet, says. "We want people to think about their first love songs and songs they liked when they were younger - the kind of things you remember when you think about nice music from within your lifetime."

Regarding the TLM 67 - making its formal debut at AES Europe - Fraissinet reveals that it "basically has the shape of the old U67 but with a different content. The U67 was a tube microphone, but this new TLM has a special circuit which creates the typical sound of the old U67 tube mic. It also features a special colour so that it can be easily distinguished from a regular U87 or U67, and carries a special metal emblem showing Georg Neumann [to reflect] the company's 80 years."

Among the other products on display will be the Solution-D family of digital mics - recently joined by the TLM 103 D - and the KM D series of miniature digital mics.

"It will be a very nice approach for an 80-year-old company to show that it is still looking forward and standing for technological leadership as far as the microphone world is concerned," concludes Fraissinet.

New Thunderbird vs Old 57 Thunderbird...

[Sounds Great]

I think transformerless mics can be great. The M149 is very accurate, and sensitive and I wouldn't hesitate to use it in a lot of situations or as a room mic or something a little more distance. Close up vocal micing' requires a special mic that works with a particular singer. I like a transformer mic usually. I think there is some kind of saturation thing that smooths out the vocal a bit. Even an sm57 has one.

[Duardo]

The TLM67 has part of the same name and looks Identical to the original U67. And neumann has also made an actual reissue of the old U47 and U87, so really it makes sense to me that the TLM67 will sound almost identical to the U67.

It has part or the original name and looks [i]similar[/], but they have done a reissue of the U67 in the past (as has already been mentioned on this thread) which they called the U67. Since this has a different name I would not expect it to sound like the original.

What audio engineer would buy a transformerless version of: 1176,La-2a,1073,Fairchild,Pultecs ?? AMS Neve came out with a partly transformerless 33609 and at that point audio engineers preferred the old model so it's a FACT that high end gear consumers WANT transformers in their equipment

Neumann still makes a few microphones with transformers (U87, U89 etc), but people seem to be buying their transformerless microphones as well...

[Meriphew]

Originally Posted by peeder

Are you another dealer that got in a fight with Sennheiser, or are you just parrotting the one that did?

I'm not a dealer (duh - do you see anything in my signature??), and I'm not regurgetating other's posts or opinions. Current Neumann mics are an embarrassment to their lineage IMO.