Music these days are just so stupidly loud, it is anoying that you don't want to listen to it again.
I listen to classical music, they have more dynamics which makes it dramatic and enjoyable.
Heavyly Compressed sound loose naturalness of sound which makes me tired to listen to.
True, dynamics (along with melody) have been purged by the stupid, wreckless, tonedeaf, corporate morons running the constantly deflating music 'industry'. Why ? Because it's EASIER to pump out crap with no standards and no genuine musicality.
I think there are many good bands out there. Just not on MTV or the radio.
Every time I have worked with a REALLY cool band, as soon as the "higher ups" waved the mighty dollar in front of them, they abandoned everything that made them cool in exchange for chasing the dream.
Listen to BearClaw, PJ Harvey, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Converge, Muse, etc etc.
Good stuff is out there.
Popular music has always sucked. Remember The Beatles? Rowdy party band until they got signed. The they turned into suits, haircuts and I wanna hold your hand.
2008 is just a different suit and haircut, same stuff.
yeah, but back then it was actually worth it to play the game for a little while to get to a point where you could create art...The Beatles did just that, Rubber Soul onward is true art...they became truly original...everything now is rehashed and trying too hard to be something it's not...people back then just wrote songs and tried things that were inspirational to them...the beatles, david bowie, the stones, led zeppelin, pink floyd, the doors, queen, ect...none of these cats seemed like they were trying to sound like someone else, there may be similarities but all these folks definitely had their own musical identities...a lot of so called "artists" these days just don't...and lets just face it, everything has been done in the verse chorus verse pop format...all the classic, creative things were done many yrs ago...I think popular music is over...when the history books or websites in the future reflect on the highlights and influence of popular music, I doubt many "artists" from the last 20 yrs will be mentioned much if at all...maybe nirvana, radiohead? metallica?(who I hate), maybe a few others too but it will mainly be the classic music created in the 50s, 60s, and early 70's, and maybe 80's Michael Jackson too, in the words of Ron Burgundy "He Was Kind of a big deal"...Led Zeppelin will always be talked about, as will the beatles, elvis, MJ, the stones, hendrix, the doors ect......they're like Coke & Pepsi...they defined rock and pop music...kinda like...well...hmmm...How Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, Bach, maybe a few others defined classical...but I'm sure there are hundreds more classical composers that barely get mentioned anymore...at least on the surface...it's sad...I wish I was born in the 60's...it was apparently the best time to make rock n roll music...
He did all that... yet I have NO IDEA who he is! I'm sure if he had a name like Tiger or Elvis or Bono or Pele I would. To say Tiger's branding (both name and ethnically: "what is he anyway?!") has had nothing to do with his imprint on the popular conscious is incredibly naive and that's not taking ANYTHING away from his incredible abilities.
Greg Norman had a kinda ordinary name (although it trips off the tongue pretty well) so what did the call him? The Shark, The Great White.
Who cares anyway? It's not like golf is even a sport!
Sorry to go off topic......but anyway....am I the only one who has a problem with Golfers being called Athletes?? It's the antithesis of Athletics. If they carried their own clubs and had to play as fast as possible it MIGHT be athletic. I mean, really.
I think today's music doesn't suck.
The problem is, too many people are making music!
It's just the pile of shit that growed. Harder to find that tiny diamond in a pile of shit.
1) Not enough genuine (dynamic, melodic) songwriting skill 2) Not enough hands-on instrumental skill 3) not enough specialized, skilled studio engineers/producers 4) Way too much sonic processing 5) Tone deaf public (who didn't have music classes while in school, because the crucial mind-expanding programs were cut by administrators/governments) 6) Way too much emphasis on image, hype, attitude and dance moves (in place of the song, the musicianship and artistic exploration).
1) Quantity over quantity - many bands want to do 10-12 songs fast rather than spend the time doing a really good job on one or two songs. I actually had a band expecting to track 33 songs in a single day.
2) Short deadlines from record companies they want a year job done in 3-4 months (write 10 songs record, mix and master)
There are good writers, but so much bad music is around that it is hard to zero in on the good stuff. I'm not saying force yourself to like anything that sucks, but try to keep an open mind because there are good things.
We live in a world where 5 people respond to the passing of one of THE greatest songwriters of the last 100 years on one of the biggest sites on the internet and one that's SUPPOSEDLY FULL OF MUSIC PEOPLE. It's only natural then, that music is disappearing down the sh*tter.
__________________ 'If you can't hear Freddie Green, you are too loud.'
As you get older, it can be hard to take in new acts, you get into that, heard it all before groove.
true. Maybe because you have.
I mean, so many 20 somethings think that Raphael Saadiq or Fitz is ground breaking stuff. They're great, and I like the songs OK, but I lived though soul when it was new, so it's hard to get too excited. If I want to hear that thing, I go to the well. The neo/retro variety leaves me kind of flat.
Probably how my parents felt when I put on a Stray Cats album back in the 80's. I guess pop/rock/soul/dance/funk has been beat to death for over 60 years now. If you push anything far enough, you'll end up where you started.
Best thing is, if you fast forward 30 years and this site is still around, this topic will still be relevant. Just as the other yawn-fest analogue vs. digital.
Love, love me do, You know I love you
I'll always be true, So, pleeeeeeeeease, Love me do.
-The Beatles, 1962
There's always been crappy, cheesy garbage on the radio.
You gotta find the exceptions to the rule.
This my excavation and today is Qumran
Everything that happens from now on
This is pouring rain
This is paralyzed
I keep throwing it down two-hunded at a time
It's hard to find it when you knew it
When your money's gone
And you're drunk as hell
On your back with your racks as the stacks are your load
In the back and the racks and the stacks of your load
In the back with your racks and you're un-stacking your load
Well I've been twisting to the sun and the moon
I needed to replace
The fountain in the front yard is rusted out
All my love was down
In a frozen ground
There's a black crow sitting across from me
His wiry legs are crossed
He is dangling my keys, he even fakes a toss
Whatever could it be
That has brought me to this loss?
On your back with your racks as the stacks are your load
In the back and the racks and the stacks of your load
In the back with your racks and you're un-stacking your load
This is not the sound of a new man or crispy realization
It's the sound of the unlocking and the lift away
Your love will be
Safe with me
Today's Music sucks big weenie because of the great sucking sound left by the vacuum of time immemorial. No sound vibration can escape this fate unless it stands the test of time, like Bridge Over Troubled Waters or Unchained Melody. Or Elvis's "You were always on My Mind.
I think The Beatles, including the song Love Me Do, are way way way way way way way way better than the miserable Bon Iver.
WAY!
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Well, you're certainly entitled to your opinion.
I was just pointing out that there's always been cheesy crap on the radio,
and those Love Me Do lyrics make me want to puke on my shoes.
....as opposed to the Stacks lyrics, which are a good degree more sophisticated, honest and introspective.
Of course, there's a ton of great stuff created by the Beatles, and likewise a lot of shite from Bon Iver, but my point is - there has ALWAYS been crappy tripe on the radio...ALWAYS!!!
And Love Me Do is a great example of crappy, cheesy radio tripe with the cheesiest lyrics on planet Earth.
I mean, gimme a freeking BREAK - there is not POSSIBLY a more CHEESY, RIDICULOUS lyric in human music history!
Love, love me do - you know I love you. I'll always be true....so, pleeeeeeeze, love me do.
Sorry, but someone's drunk too much freeking nostalgic rose-colored Beatles cool aid!!
Sorry, but someone's drunk too much freeking nostalgic rose-colored Beatles cool aid!!
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Is that it?
A lot of great songs have "cheesy" lyrics, or are simple.
If you would rather listen to some boring Bon Iver song from the present (or some other lousy music from a thousand years ago) it's fine with me. I guess you are entitled to do so under your own set of kool-aid rules.
Cool clip, but it reminds me of the hopelessly fatalistic state of mind of some liberal arts college professors who always choose to see the glass half empty because of their own gnawing feelings of mediocrity for choosing to enter the machine and play it safe.
It's certainly true that post modern industrial society has essentially destroyed the human spirit as a whole; but that's no excuse for a real artist not to create. Actually, it should even provide an advantage over artists from previous generations for generating deep feelings of outrage and an obsessive, compulsive need to break free from the grip of the industrial vampire.
A musical genius today has absolutely no excuse not to create a masterpiece (or several), because the technology to enable that is certainly available for pennies on the dollar.
Now whether or not the rest of humanity will have any interest is another matter entirely (considering the robotized society we live in today, they most likely won't); but that certainly did not stop the likes of Van Gogh, Nietzsche, or William Blake from following their bliss.
A lot of great songs have "cheesy" lyrics, or are simple.
If you would rather listen to some boring Bon Iver song from the present (or some other lousy music from a thousand years ago) it's fine with me. I guess you are entitled to do so under your own set of kool-aid rules.
I like Love Me Do. Sue me!
Maybe this will cheer you up:
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I wanna hold your hand.
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Blah, blah, blah.
Cheesball garbage lyrics designed for give year olds.
Well, I'd rather listen to some more interesting lyrics, guitar tunings and chord voicings, and creatively written and sung melody...
than the same old I-IV-V garbage with garbage cheeseball lyrics.
Just because EVERYONE writes garbage cheesy lyrics, does NOT make it better music!
It's like arguing for the "quality" of Pepsi, over fresh organic apple juice - just because more people drink it!
Yikes.
I'm sure glad I don't think this way!
The title of this thread SHOULD be - - Why do pop song lyrics from 1962 suck so much?
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