Part of the solution---if you shop at Guitar Center, read this - Page 2

joelpatterson · 15th December 2007, 04:07 AM

I can see this being the most back-and-forth insulting thread in Gearslutz history.

Acoustic Cloud · 15th December 2007, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by joelpatterson

I can see this being the most back-and-forth insulting thread in Gearslutz history.

Me too!

Joel, you are ugly.

Your court!!

bunnerabb · 15th December 2007, 04:13 AM

I can see this thread filling up with the usual ad hominem, snotty bullshit and falling off of page one like every other thread, here, in about four days.

F*uck this shit.

I got things to do and arguing a position with a troll is like beating a mongoloid for shitting his pants.

He doesn't know any better, he doesn't learn anything and the noise is awful.

Old Cane · 15th December 2007, 04:15 AM

I think you're right Joel. I'm going to delete my posts so everyone here can bash away. Sorry to have tried to point out reality.

My appologies everyone.

egan · 15th December 2007, 04:16 AM

I'll bite. A couple of months ago I went in to try some stingray 5's out. There were 3 or 4 on the wall but all had insanely unplayable action (ex. 1" at the twelfth fret or so low open notes made no sound--they just hit the frets). I told the sales guy and he put them behind the counter and walked away.

I understand not being able to setup every instrument but everything should be playable....and IMO anything over $1k should be well set up....or at least you would sell more of them if they were.

On another note, when this first happened I whined a bit in another forum and a guitar center employee chimed in that "if I was serious about buying I would have called ahead and asked them to set them up." I told him I didn't call car dealerships and ask them to inflate tires either.

Old Cane · 15th December 2007, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by bunnerabb

I can see this thread filling up with the usual ad hominem, snotty bullshit and falling off of page one like every other thread, here, in about four days.

F*uck this shit.

I got things to do and arguing a position with a troll is like beating a mongoloid for shitting his pants.

He doesn't know any better, he doesn't learn anything and the noise is awful.

Troll? Is that directed at me mother ****er? Just because I like shopping somehwere? **** you. If this gets me kicked off then so be it.

lowfreq33 · 15th December 2007, 04:17 AM

Okay, let's argue over semantics. The reality is that MSRP means nothing anymore. An SM57 lists at $158.99. Have you ever paid more than $99 for a 57? No, $99 is the price, no more, no less. This is so commonplace that magazines even give the MSRP and the street price. And it's the same everywhere you go. Perhaps your lack of understanding regarding these concepts is the reason your ownership of 3 different guitar stores exists only in the past tense.

Old Cane · 15th December 2007, 04:17 AM

Well, it sure got edited. But I think you get my meaning.

lowfreq33 · 15th December 2007, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Cane

Troll? Is that directed at me mother ****er? Just because I like shopping somehwere? **** you. If this gets me kicked off then so be it.

I got no more use for this guy.

Old Cane · 15th December 2007, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by lowfreq33

Okay, let's argue over semantics. The reality is that MSRP means nothing anymore. An SM57 lists at $158.99. Have you ever paid more than $99 for a 57? No, $99 is the price, no more, no less. This is so commonplace that magazines even give the MSRP and the street price. And it's the same everywhere you go. Perhaps your lack of understanding regarding these concepts is the reason your ownership of 3 different guitar stores exists only in the past tense.

No but it's been that price for over 30 years. Get a grip. I'm being called a troll and told I don't know what words mean. I guess I'm done. Hopefully when my account gets deleted all of my trolling posts will get removed. And anytime you want to meet face to face and teach me what retail is I'm just down in Murfreesboro.

lowfreq33 · 15th December 2007, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Cane

No but it's been that price for over 30 years. Get a grip. I'm being called a troll and told I don't know what words mean. I guess I'm done. Hopefully when my account gets deleted all of my trolling posts will get removed. And anytime you want to meet face to face and teach me what retail is I'm just down in Murfreesboro.

Gee, that's mature. Let's act like a couple of NASCAR fans and get into fisticuffs over which Dale Earnhardt was the better driver.

Acoustic Cloud · 15th December 2007, 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by lowfreq33

Gee, that's mature. Let's act like a couple of NASCAR fans and get into fisticuffs over which Dale Earnhardt was the better driver.

I was a Nascar Bubba.

I got beat up

Old Cane · 15th December 2007, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by lowfreq33

Gee, that's mature. Let's act like a couple of NASCAR fans and get into fisticuffs over which Dale Earnhardt was the better driver.

I asked you to teach me the meaning of word. How in the hell did you get fisticuffs out of that? Oh, you just make word mean what you want them to. I forgot.

Since you are all knowing, how do I contact someone to get my account deleted?

lowfreq33 · 15th December 2007, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Cane

I asked you to teach me the meaning of word. How in the hell did you get fisticuffs out of that? Oh, you just make word mean what you want them to. I forgot.

Since you are all knowing, how do I contact someone to get my account deleted?

Don't be coy, you knew what you were saying. If I ask someone to step outside does that mean I want to show them my new car?

kafka · 15th December 2007, 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Cane

I asked you to teach me the meaning of word. How in the hell did you get fisticuffs out of that? Oh, you just make word mean what you want them to. I forgot.

Since you are all knowing, how do I contact someone to get my account deleted?

Is this the definition of passive aggression or what? "Someone tell me how to find someone who can make me stop coming here for this abuse"

Oh yeah, and your breath smells like stinky nacho farts.

bunnerabb · 15th December 2007, 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Cane

Troll? Is that directed at me mother ****er? Just because I like shopping somehwere? **** you. If this gets me kicked off then so be it.

Shees, what a temper.

That's probably why you're not married?

Get it now?

F*ck yes it's directed at you, motherf*cker.

The Chemist · 15th December 2007, 04:34 AM

How old are you people?

Because if you're older than me (26), you're all a bunch of idiots.

lowfreq33 · 15th December 2007, 04:34 AM

Well, I guess this thread's getting deleted.

freestyle tromb · 15th December 2007, 04:35 AM

wow, guys. classy thread.

To the original poster: I don't think you will find any help here that you, personally, can realistically implement at your store. Maybe a few small things, like setting up the instruments... but as a few have mentioned, most of the problems with Guitar Center stem from much deeper places then how one man manages his store.

If your company, however, is really interested in being a great retail experience, I suggest you ask Apple.

although they probably won't tell you anything. Hahaha.

bunnerabb · 15th December 2007, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by The Chemist

How old are you people?

Because if you're older than me (26), you're all a bunch of idiots.

Wow. That's a new one.

I had no idea the age for idiocy was cut off at 25.

You get porky with me, I call you on it.

Sorry to offend, but I'm a dirty sonofabitch if I'm changing my tune for every posturing wanker with an insult in exchange for light humour.

The Chemist · 15th December 2007, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by bunnerabb

Wow. That's a new one.

I had no idea the age for idiocy was cut off at 25.

You get porky with me, I call you on it.

Sorry to offend, but I'm a dirty sonofabitch if I'm changing my tune for every posturing wanker with an insult in exchange for light humour.

Calm down, I's only taking piss.

bunnerabb · 15th December 2007, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Chemist

Calm down, I's only taking piss.

That wasn't directed at you.

The pisstake was noted.

It was a tad shopworn, but noted.

The Chemist · 15th December 2007, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bunnerabb

That wasn't directed at you.

The pisstake was noted.

It was a tad shopworn, but noted.

K, lets go to the pub now...

Sounds Great · 15th December 2007, 04:47 AM

lowfreq33 · 15th December 2007, 04:52 AM

Glad you enjoyed it. I'll be here all week.

lowfreq33 · 15th December 2007, 04:56 AM

To get back on topic, the best thing GC could do would be to instruct their salesmen to treat every potential customer with respect, and not to act as though they know more than everyone who walks in the door. If that were true they'd be using the gear instead of selling it.

And yes, sometimes a customer comes in badly informed and could use some help. If a 17 year old kid comes in and wants to buy a pair of M-Audio bx5a's, he might benefit from a helping hand. If I come in and want to buy a Massive Passive, just sell it to me. Under retail please.

dasmetre · 15th December 2007, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by lowfreq33

I can see this being the most unifying thread in Gearslutz history.

I just hope you use your powers for good...

lowfreq33 · 15th December 2007, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dasmetre

I just hope you use your powers for good...

When I wrote that I was on beer #3. I'm now on #6.

dasmetre · 15th December 2007, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by funkcity

Are you authorized to conduct a survey regarding your whole company on a public forum like this?

My MOST recent experience:
New store on Pico in West Los Angeles.
This is a gorgeous store. They obviously sunk a ton of money into this place.
I had to fend off 20 plus employees.... new store more help than customers.

I saw a new Euphonix System 5 MC that was supposed to be running the new Apple Logic platform..... It was crashed and nobody knew how to reboot!
Nice.... I thought well maybe..... but I was wrong. Sales folks were not trained.

Hmm...

I'm less concerned with my authorization to conduct this survey than I am with making sure I do what I can to make GC a better place for you guys. I'm aware of our general reputation, and input like yours here (regarding the new store, which is absolutely beautiful) will help narrow that down to specific things that can be done. I appreciate you speaking up.

kenny_popper · 15th December 2007, 05:05 AM

Is there a full moon tonight??

kENNy

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15th December 2007, 04:07 AM	#31
joelpatterson Lives for gear Join Date: May 2005 Location: Albany, New York Posts: 3,242	I can see this being the most back-and-forth insulting thread in Gearslutz history. __________________ Mountaintop Studios ~the peak of perfection~ Petersburgh NY 12138 mountaintop@taconic.net

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bunnerabb Lives for gear Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Big Wide City Posts: 1,083	I can see this thread filling up with the usual ad hominem, snotty bullshit and falling off of page one like every other thread, here, in about four days. Fuck this shit. I got things to do and arguing a position with a troll is like beating a mongoloid for shitting his pants. He doesn't know any better, he doesn't learn anything and the noise is awful. __________________ "It CAN be done. You can drive a car with your feet, but that don't make it a good fcking idea". - Chris Rock

15th December 2007, 04:15 AM	#34
Old Cane Gear addict Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 460	I think you're right Joel. I'm going to delete my posts so everyone here can bash away. Sorry to have tried to point out reality. My appologies everyone. __________________ Boogie 'til you puke. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/defa...?bandID=725307

15th December 2007, 04:17 AM	#37
lowfreq33 Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,891	Okay, let's argue over semantics. The reality is that MSRP means nothing anymore. An SM57 lists at $158.99. Have you ever paid more than $99 for a 57? No, $99 is the price, no more, no less. This is so commonplace that magazines even give the MSRP and the street price. And it's the same everywhere you go. Perhaps your lack of understanding regarding these concepts is the reason your ownership of 3 different guitar stores exists only in the past tense. __________________ Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?!

15th December 2007, 04:16 AM	#35
egan Gear Head Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 66	I'll bite. A couple of months ago I went in to try some stingray 5's out. There were 3 or 4 on the wall but all had insanely unplayable action (ex. 1" at the twelfth fret or so low open notes made no sound--they just hit the frets). I told the sales guy and he put them behind the counter and walked away. I understand not being able to setup every instrument but everything should be playable....and IMO anything over $1k should be well set up....or at least you would sell more of them if they were. On another note, when this first happened I whined a bit in another forum and a guitar center employee chimed in that "if I was serious about buying I would have called ahead and asked them to set them up." I told him I didn't call car dealerships and ask them to inflate tires either.

15th December 2007, 04:34 AM	#48
lowfreq33 Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,891	Well, I guess this thread's getting deleted. __________________ Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?!

15th December 2007, 04:35 AM	#49
freestyle tromb Gear maniac Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York City Posts: 176	wow, guys. classy thread. To the original poster: I don't think you will find any help here that you, personally, can realistically implement at your store. Maybe a few small things, like setting up the instruments... but as a few have mentioned, most of the problems with Guitar Center stem from much deeper places then how one man manages his store. If your company, however, is really interested in being a great retail experience, I suggest you ask Apple. although they probably won't tell you anything. Hahaha. __________________ the "tromb" stands for "trombonist."

15th December 2007, 04:47 AM	#54
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15th December 2007, 04:52 AM	#55
lowfreq33 Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,891	Glad you enjoyed it. I'll be here all week. __________________ Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?!

15th December 2007, 04:56 AM	#56
lowfreq33 Lives for gear Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 1,891	To get back on topic, the best thing GC could do would be to instruct their salesmen to treat every potential customer with respect, and not to act as though they know more than everyone who walks in the door. If that were true they'd be using the gear instead of selling it. And yes, sometimes a customer comes in badly informed and could use some help. If a 17 year old kid comes in and wants to buy a pair of M-Audio bx5a's, he might benefit from a helping hand. If I come in and want to buy a Massive Passive, just sell it to me. Under retail please. __________________ Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a bitch?!

15th December 2007, 05:05 AM	#60
kenny_popper Gear nut Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Boca Raton, Florida Posts: 87	Is there a full moon tonight?? kENNy