Would you work at Guitar Center?
Old 30th September 2007
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Would you work at Guitar Center?

Old 30th September 2007
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i wouldn't choose to work there but any job using your skills that you have honed is one that you shouldn't feel disgraced about. at least you are near your tools and working with a medium which you love. as far as job's go it's kind of like playing in a cover band but at least you have found work. i have no idea how fairly they treat their employees though.
Old 30th September 2007
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The discussion in the blog post is interesting... seeing the money breakdown, etc...
Old 30th September 2007
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I'm starting on Tuesday, I'll be in ProAudio. I'm not really looking for a big pay day of course, I'm looking for the big discounts. I'll be running my studio mostly overnight and working GC during the day. I live and breathe gear and hoping to be one of the few that can actually help people instead of pushing Presonus and Audix all day.
Old 30th September 2007
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The thing i hated the most while working in a guitar shop (years ago) was coming home and not wanting to grab a guitar anymore.....
Old 30th September 2007
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no

too many morons

the pro audio dept is probably the best place to be though...
Old 1st October 2007
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Originally Posted by Jonboy79 View Post
I'm looking for the big discounts.
Duuuude! get a bunch or Presonus, it's the INDUSTRY STANDARD!
Worked in the "pro audio" department about 11 years ago. It was pretty miserable. Best deals I got:
AKG drum pack (D-112, and (2) clip on mini condensers) $100
used RSP Tube Saturator (anyone remember this one?) $50
used Intersound IVP $50

Not really worth my 6 months there though. Enjoyed my High School retail experience at Ace Hardware much more. Good luck.
Old 1st October 2007
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I did music retail for about 2 years around 1993-94.
It kinda sucks.

If I wanted to be a salesman I would choose an industry where I had a snowball's chance in hell of making good money- music retail isn't that career.
The margins are too tight and especially with ebay being around these days I imagine it is much worse.

I'd have to be really desperate to go back to doing that again.
Old 1st October 2007
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Duuuude! get a bunch or Presonus, it's the INDUSTRY STANDARD!
Worked in the "pro audio" department about 11 years ago. It was pretty miserable. Best deals I got:
AKG drum pack (D-112, and (2) clip on mini condensers) $100
used RSP Tube Saturator (anyone remember this one?) $50
used Intersound IVP $50

Not really worth my 6 months there though. Enjoyed my High School retail experience at Ace Hardware much more. Good luck.

Well it might work different now. The store manager says the discount applies to just about everything in the store and he even gave me some examples from gear I chose. I won't give the numbers out here but it was pretty exciting.
Old 1st October 2007
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i live in Arizona, and G.C. is the only music store around that has anything really,
and they're 1.5 hours away in phoenix.

its what you make of it, i guess...

there's a good amount of ego there, and wannabe face-melting guitar soloists around every corner, but other than that its really not so bad.

especially when its all you got!

ive seen some cool drum DVD's in the drum department.

Old 1st October 2007
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"I dunno... what are the hours?"

SM.
Old 1st October 2007
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At $7.15 base pay, it'll start to suck when you have to bust your ass to sell DOD pedals, Squier guitar packages, and other crap just to try to get your commission for the week. Plus, if your commission doesn't pass your weekly base pay...then you're getting about $250 a week.
Old 1st October 2007
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Those guys may not be the cream of the crop for answers etc, but there is no way i would take a job and work the hrs they do and have to bust your ass and depend on the end results, who knows what that could be $$ wise. You have to be a great salesman and more important have enough traffic.
Old 1st October 2007
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Back in the 80's a buddy of mine was bustin' his hump in the drum section of our GC. I remember thinking someday he's gonna find a real job. I just found out yesterday that he's now a VP for Guitar Center - so i guess he did.
Old 1st October 2007
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WORK there?

Man! I can hardly even walk in a GC the first place!

$250 per week?
Is that Gross?
What is it after taxes?

I hope you live close 'cause that isn't even gas and lunch money!
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Those guys may not be the cream of the crop for answers etc, but there is no way i would take a job and work the hrs they do and have to bust your ass and depend on the end results, who knows what that could be $$ wise. You have to be a great salesman and more important have enough traffic.

Trust me it's not worse than my usual day job, which was selling homes. You don't even get the 7.15 with that. It's either you sell a house or you don't get paid and until this recent housing bust in the STL I was doing great. Now, luckily, I'm usually busy enough recording to pay the bills and I usually record overnight which works out nice. I find your comment about the hours they work kinda funny, it's 40hrs a week, like most regular jobs.
Old 1st October 2007
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250 a week? I don't think thats true. I know a couple guys that used to work at GC in Boston and they were makin like 45-50k a year. Not bad for retail
Old 1st October 2007
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I used to work for those cocksuckers. I was a sales manager.

At the store I worked at you made 5.15 an hour base pay. The commission was a draw you made 2% of gross sales...and 10% of gross profit.

They subtract your hourly from your commission what is left over is given to you.

But here's the thing. The commission check is considered tip/extra wages...so you get taxed 35% on it...and they tax you for the full amount of commission before they subtract the hourly.

So to whoever those guys in Boston were making 45-50K a year....they must have been blowing people in the bathroom because you"d have to sell 100,000++ consistantly in a MONTH at LEAST to bring that home and that's not talking pro audio where the highest profit margin is 20% if you're lucky... that is definitely not happening often I guarantee that.

When I left the highest salesman in the company was some dude who sold over 2 million in Gross sales...he sold pro audio equipment at almost cost to a third wrld country...just a lucky phone call...made 70,000 in commission.


But on the bright side of things....there will be over 149 stores nationwide by 2009. My store had 38 employees leave in less than a year.

fuuckfuuck
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LOL.. holy shit guys, I was actually a bit in the dumps today but these posts had me laughing for a good 20 minutes!



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Originally Posted by dbbubba View Post
WORK there?
Man! I can hardly even walk in a GC the first place!

$250 per week?
Is that Gross?
What is it after taxes?

I hope you live close 'cause that isn't even gas and lunch money!
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I used to work for those cocksuckers. I was a sales manager...

So to whoever those guys in Boston were making 45-50K a year....they must have been blowing people in the bathroom....

fuuckfuuck
Old 1st October 2007
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I worked there for 3 months......


Worse job I ever had......and I've also worked at a shoe store.....

only good thing about that job is the discount. Seriously debated buying gear at cost and just ebaying the hell out of it.......
Old 1st October 2007
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5:09:55 PM John: the commission rate is 2% of gross sales, plus 10% of net sales
This is misleading... it's 10% of the net profit... not net sales.
Old 1st October 2007
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I make way more in my day job than I ever could in any area of music. Fortunately I love what I do for a living as much as I love music.


So, nope. GC would be out for me.
Old 1st October 2007
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I have an old friend who is a STRONG Texas rock/blues guitar player who has played about a jillion club gigs who worked at GC for a short time.
He ended up there as a stop-gap thing because his inlaws sold the billiards accesory store he had worked at for years and years.

He was SOOOOOOOO embarrased when I walked in and saw him!

He told me that it was going to VERY short-lived because it wasn't enough money to even warrant driving his car about ten miles and back!
A month later he wasn't there.
(Wait... am I admiting that I was there TWICE within a month's time?)

Plus... a discount on that stuff?
pffffffffff!!!!!!!!!!!!

What do they have you'd want?
Seriously!
Old 1st October 2007
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I did.

For three days.

I repent in sackcloth and ashes.
Old 1st October 2007
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Quote:
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Plus... a discount on that stuff?
pffffffffff!!!!!!!!!!!!

What do they have you'd want?
Seriously!
The store near me actually carries a lot of high end gear, they have to order a lot of it, but they get the entire Manley line, Blue, SSL Xrack, etc. Lots there to want, you'll just have to work a 2nd job to buy any of it, even with the discount (since you won't make shit working there).
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Originally Posted by dbbubba View Post
I have an old friend who is a STRONG Texas rock/blues guitar player who has played about a jillion club gigs who worked at GC for a short time.
He ended up there as a stop-gap thing because his inlaws sold the billiards accesory store he had worked at for years and years.

He was SOOOOOOOO embarrased when I walked in and saw him!

He told me that it was going to VERY short-lived because it wasn't enough money to even warrant driving his car about ten miles and back!
A month later he wasn't there.
(Wait... am I admiting that I was there TWICE within a month's time?)

Plus... a discount on that stuff?
pffffffffff!!!!!!!!!!!!

What do they have you'd want?
Seriously!
Yeah, I mean they don't sell any mics I'd be interested in or any software I'd be interested in. All their keyboards are crap and their Mesa's are probably bstock.
Old 1st October 2007
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250 a week? I don't think thats true. I know a couple guys that used to work at GC in Boston and they were makin like 45-50k a year. Not bad for retail
The 550 Boston GC store has about 40-45 employees at any given time. The top 5 might make 45K+/year, not including the Sales Manager, Ops Manager and Store Manager. Below #10 and down, you're probably just breaking draw by a few dollars. Below #20, you're at min wage. I worked there for a while, and unless something seriously has changed, I am very serious that those were the numbers from the sales roster.

The best deals from GC can come not from working there, but from having a good friend or connection there. I am serious. You can't just buy used gear on a whim there. Actually you aren't supposed to buy it generally at all. Anything over $500 purchase has to be cleared by the regional manager.

Have a friend that works there, and work a real job instead. They can ***** the gear out for anything they like nearly if they are an AM/DM or above. And then go to the stupid 'fire sales' that they have. That's when you can get stuff like a Urei 1176 for $500 and other crazy deals that I can't even express. The Boston GC is very good for this.

It is very very hard to count on consistently high sales. They happen on occasion, but it's on and off.

If you're going to take a min wage job, intern at a studio
Old 1st October 2007
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Yeah, I mean they don't sell any mics I'd be interested in or any software I'd be interested in. All their keyboards are crap and their Mesa's are probably bstock.
They don't have bad gear all the time. Have you been to the NYC/LA/Boston/Nashville stores? What mics do you want that they can't get?

I personally think their keyboards are lacking, but that's because all I want is basically esoteric (whatever Analogue Haven has).

You can't generally get ANY discount on Mesa stuff. Or Apple. Or Monster.
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This is misleading... it's 10% of the net profit... not net sales.
In addition, it's not always those percentages. I started in accessories and mine was 10% and 3%. I was good friend with the Sales Manager that hired me (somewhat as on odd favor to another friend that is beyond explanation here). I moved to Keyboards/Pro Audio and I can't recall if they changed it or not. I think I stayed at 10/3 the entire time I was there- not that it helped me much.
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When I left the highest salesman in the company was some dude who sold over 2 million in Gross sales...he sold pro audio equipment at almost cost to a third wrld country...just a lucky phone call...made 70,000 in commission.
Yep, that sale was either pure and dumb luck, or a story pumped up (and possibly made up) by upper management to encourage the "You can do it too!" attitude.

At GC they try to say if you don't sell a ton then it's because you're bad at sales. I'm damn good at sales, and show it at my current job, but GC just sucks.
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