The Real Problem with GEARSLUTZ!!!

[Labs]

Originally Posted by joelpatterson

OK, Gustav, I hear you loud and clear... this branding thing, MAN is it alot of work...

[Tony Shepperd]

I find the most troubling aspect about people who post with anonymity is that they are dispensing advice like they are the audio encyclopedia.

Why would you trust someone's advice and have NO idea who they are?
Some of these guys have thousands and thousands of post, dispensing their audio concepts like candy out of a piñata and you have no idea who you are dealing with.
Just someone who has a tremendous amount on time on their hands.

Some of these guys are posting under 2 different aliases and setting up the question for themselves to answer.

There is one guy who posted on GS numerous times about the quality of certain preamps and when you got right down to listening to his work, it was pure garbage.

We can debate all day and night about whether or not something is ITB or OTB.
Whether or not analog is better than digital, but when you have guys who cannot put together a coherent mix, suddenly constructing listening test and they are discussing the finer points of EQ... well, it's just laughable!

[AMIEL]

Originally Posted by Tony Shepperd

Some of these guys are posting under 2 different aliases and setting up the question for themselves to answer.

LOL!!!! so funny!!!

[henryrobinett]

Originally Posted by Tony Shepperd

There is one guy who posted on GS numerous times about the quality of certain preamps and when you got right down to listening to his work, it was pure garbage.

This is exactly why in one thread I posted clips of my playing when discussing jazz, improv and creativity. It's so easy to just talk bullshit. I wasn't trying to say "I'm all that" just that I have some cred (maybe/maybe not) but here it is.

I'm much more of a performer than an engineer. I'm used to playing and having peoople listen, not hiding while they do it. I see no sense in do that online either. What? It gives me bigger balls to suddenly have guts to say something I wouldn't otherwise? Why not have real balls?

[Tone Laborer]

Originally Posted by Tony Shepperd

I find the most troubling aspect about people who post with anonymity is that they are dispensing advice like they are the audio encyclopedia.

!

And people who give their names don't? That's a pretty generalized statement, IMO. To each his own.

[quote]I've never had a problem sharing my name with anyone who's interested. I just haven't run into anyone who cared enough to ask. [quote]

My experience as well.

[quote] Why not have real balls? [quote]

Who's flaming now?


Jeez, I really didn't know that people put so much importance on this. Oh well, consider me outed. If they update the signature, it should have my name on it and I can finaly be rid of the shame. I'll notify my press secretary and tell her to expect an onslaught of inquires. Far be it from me to be a ball-less, pinata toting, no hearing, can't mix online coward.

[henryrobinett]

I didn't mean that as any kind of personal attack. LOL. I said earlier that there are real legit reasons people may not want to use their real name. Or maybe it's a force of habit, I don't know. But it seems that folks can more easily be rude when they can speak anonymously, whether they use their real name or not, we're still kind of anonymous. People tend to say things to people that they'd never do in person. As a rule, this drives me nuts.

Didn't mean that as a flame. That's just what I think about it. I didn't mean for anyone to take it personally. I guess it hit a nerve.

[Tone Laborer]

Nah, just giving a little $%!^ back.

You're probably right.

BTW, where's those files you put up, I'd like to hear them.

[henryrobinett]

Well that's cool Special Ed!

Let's see if I can link these up. Thanks for asking.

Three tunes on MP3 forum:
A couple of early jazz-fusiony tunes

Three solos from various live performances:
Keith Jarrett a umbria jazz 07

[Krumbz]

Originally Posted by nukmusic

come on dude...stop with the bullshit!

Sorry Nuk but duke gotta point. You haven't mentioned your "real" name etc. Just a link to your official site WHICH is "under construction" and sends you to your myspace site - WHICH doesn't have any of your "personal" info on it.

But with that said... its up to the end user what he or she wants to make known.

I completely agree that there are assholes who abuse the system... but they are usually younger kats who've got nothing better to do but argue over the net.

**** guns... the internet is the modern day extention of your penis.

[Vandergraf]

<---------- Actual artist rendering of my actual ear.

[BeerHunter]

So how do you really know if someone is using their real name anyways? What difference does it make? How would you know if someone is posing as someone else?

Best advice is to not worry about this so much and worry more about not believing in everything you read on the internet.

[armand79]

thats me real name too

[henryrobinett]

Originally Posted by BeerHunter

So how do you really know if someone is using their real name anyways? What difference does it make? How would you know if someone is posing as someone else?

Best advice is to not worry about this so much and worry more about not believing in everything you read on the internet.

BUT I DO WORRY!!! I AM WORRIED!!! I AM SO WORRIED ABOUT THIS!! THE INTERNETS HAS ME WORRIED ALL THE TIME. I BELIEVE EVERYTHING I READ ON THE INTERNETS!! HOW CAN I STOP WORRYING ABOUT THE INTERNETS????? PEOPLE DON'T EVEN USE THEIR REAL NAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[pan60]

Originally Posted by henryrobinett

BUT I DO WORRY!!! I AM WORRIED!!! I AM SO WORRIED ABOUT THIS!! THE INTERNETS HAS ME WORRIED ALL THE TIME. I BELIEVE EVERYTHING I READ ON THE INTERNETS!! HOW CAN I STOP WORRYING ABOUT THE INTERNETS????? PEOPLE DON'T EVEN USE THEIR REAL NAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOL

[amorris]

The real problem is that people sign up that day and ask questions that have been answered 100's of times already, which they would find if they used a search and spent some time looking for it.

OT, what are the best speakers under $200 that kill all others?

[latestflavor]

Originally Posted by Tony Shepperd

I find the most troubling aspect about people who post with anonymity is that they are dispensing advice like they are the audio encyclopedia.

Why would you trust someone's advice and have NO idea who they are?
Some of these guys have thousands and thousands of post, dispensing their audio concepts like candy out of a piñata and you have no idea who you are dealing with.
Just someone who has a tremendous amount on time on their hands.

Some of these guys are posting under 2 different aliases and setting up the question for themselves to answer.

There is one guy who posted on GS numerous times about the quality of certain preamps and when you got right down to listening to his work, it was pure garbage.

We can debate all day and night about whether or not something is ITB or OTB.
Whether or not analog is better than digital, but when you have guys who cannot put together a coherent mix, suddenly constructing listening test and they are discussing the finer points of EQ... well, it's just laughable!

LOL and true! BUT, there are pros and cons to everything.

I know this is an old thread, but there is a real good reason why i prefer people can be anonymous. The overwhelming factor is that its a small industry. For me this is a business. I can't go spewing my *real* opinion on what i think about what latest jag off who is paying my bills. What dickhead asswipe likes to hear himself talk, knows nothing about nothing but feels secure and legitimized in his lie of a corporate life. I wouldn't be able to say what I really fell and give an honest opinion unless it is positive.

Is that what you want? Amateurs plus some pro yes men? Dealers who love the gear they sell or those w endorsements? I think that would suck personally. Of course, you've gotta take the downside with the upside.....

[Ethan Winer]

Originally Posted by nukmusic

There should have been a requirement that all members post their true identity before being allowed to join.

No kidding. Some sites do insist on that, such as REP.

--Ethan

[Fluxpod]

No Personal info on the Internet.Especially on this forum.....I am very Picky with all the google/msn/whatever bots.

[Duardo]

What type of man (or women) is scare to reveal who they really are?

There are plenty of reasons that people have to not post their identities aside from fear, which have been mentioned numerous times in this thread already...as well as some valid reasons to be scared as well.

How can everyone take your advice seriously?
It also seems very disrespectful to the people you have identified themselves.

Hopefully, your advice will stand on its own. I've kind of gotten a feel for whose take on things will be similar to mine and whose will not, and suddenly finding out who those peoples are wouldn't do anything to hurt or help their credibility in either case. And I don't think there's anything disrespectful about not identifying yourself, at least not here...as has been mentioned, there are forums where it is a requirement.

I do agree that it is wrong do be disrespectful and hide behind the cloak of anonymity...and I don't think that I've done that, and I hope that I'd get called on it if I did (whether I was anonymous or not). In my experience here, people do tend to get called out.

I've never had a problem sharing my name with anyone who's interested. I just haven't run into anyone who cared enough to ask.

Same here...there are plenty of people here who do know me personally...

If a remark isn't suitable to attach your real name to, it's not a suitable remark.

I agree...but there are plenty of anonymous posters here who make nothing but suitable remarks. I'd hate to see that change.

[narcoman]

260+ CVs this year.

600 + CDs from bands/acts and showreels.

THATs why.

[Mark Kaufman]

Yeah, I'm one of those "real name" guys. It keeps me honest. I still say stupid things, but something about having my name attached to it makes me at least think twice, and occasionally even apologize.

Besides, I really don't want to be arbyjack469, or whatever.

[donsolo]

I might be one of those "audio encyclopedia guys"

But I don't talk about gear I have no experience with...

And yes, some of my past work sucks (until you consider the limited tools that they were made with at the time...)

but anyone that wants to verify me, I am always happy to return PMs...

[narcoman]

what about providing some kind of number work to the mods here and them giving you/us a rating? Not a good/bad thing but a status in the industry thing?

[sanddigger1]

I would be even more anonymous under my real name...
On some other forum, I knew a guy posting under his real name who was involved in flame wars more than anyone else. He was also knowing everything about anything and, even if he has worked on big selling projects, was sometimes making false statements about technical topics.
Yeah, reading Dan Lavry's posts about converters is interesting. But the same statements made by 'Deathwarrior666' would be as much interesting.
A rule forcing everyone to use his 'real name' would end with many people just using two words nicks instead of one.
It would certainly not be the end of trolling. And it wont stop newbies to post the same question over and over.
What counts is what people say, not who they know. Even famous people with a 'status in the industry' can write bullshit. Are some people here feeling dishonored when they talk to someone who isnt of the 'right cast' ?
This is the internet and noone should be forced to disclose personnal info if he doesnt want to.

[Yago]

No real info for security reasons , and it seems to me arseholes are arseholes regardless of what they call themselves on forums .

[narcoman]

Originally Posted by sanddigger1

I would be even more anonymous under my real name...
On some other forum, I knew a guy posting under his real name who was involved in flame wars more than anyone else. He was also knowing everything about anything and, even if he has worked on big selling projects, was sometimes making false statements about technical topics.

I can think of two people who fit in that category who hang around here. One of them earns quite respectably, has worked on some known projects - but fails to grasp even the basics of digital audio. Hasn't stopped him making some great recordings recognized by many as excellent (including me). Yet at the same time he's an incredibly rude, bigoted individual. His lack of knowledge is truly astounding!! I guess the parts of recording he does know about ensure his excellence shines through.

[nukmusic]

Originally Posted by TroyTempest

Hey nukmusic,
Thats a strange name, why did your parents name you nukmusic, And also can I ask where you were when they caught that rad picture of you spraying that Fire Hose?


I Keep all my personal information off the internet, period.
My reasoning? Here is a good story....

There was a program I wanted REALLY bad when I was younger, cost about $500.00 at the time I could not afford it. And this company had a online download for registered users all you needed was first and last name, e-mail and the telephone number you used on the account to download a copy of the program in case of any loss etc.

So I went on their support forum, and much to my surprise I found people using their real names, so after a short google search I found one of the guys ran a studio out of NY, And on the studio webpage he has his e-mail and contact phone number. And I got the program.

$500.00 dollars damage is more then enough reason for me to leave my personal stuff off the net, I have bought the program since that glorious day. But its just a good example of what is possible, the more you have to lose, the less you want to rip ass about it on the net, and my #1 reason for staying private? It protects others and more importantly, Myself.

Thanks for reading Mr.Harris

I see you(look many others) have chosen to read some things vs eading everything. GO figure. Maybe your parents should have taught you how to read CORRECTLY. Selective reading gets you nowhere.

N U K Music Company. It's a registered business, not a "Make Believe" screen name. what part dont YOU get?

and folks...(i say again) no one is looking for ya detailed personal info. Just something simple that would identify you in the music world. sample of your music, or band/studio name, or projects you've worked on. Just something simple. I guess that's just so dam hard to understand.