akai S2000 SCSI problem :-(

disc · 17th April 2004

I've got a question: I have an external SCSI HD, it's formatted and works just fine when it's connected to my PC AND my S2000. When I try to load samples from it when it's NOT connected to my PC, my sampler doesn't find the HD !
It only works when my HD and akai S2000 were connected to my pc when I start up my computer. This is very unpleasant because now I can't use it anywere else then at home. The HD was formatted by my S2000 so i think that isn't the problem. I also have a terminator SCSI but that doesn't make any difference.

Can someone please help me with this ?

thanks
Hans

Nutmeg II. · 19th April 2004

No idea!

Is the HDD properly terminated?

RhOdEz · 19th April 2004

it is prolly termination problem ,cause SCSI card in your PC is terminated by default ,so when you turn it off data doesnt come back to akai (or smth like that i really forgot all that scsi &$%&)
try to disconnect cable which goes to pc and terminate hd ,or borrow another scsi device and try it with akai alone, huh good luck i think you're one of 10 ppl on planet who still use s2000 ...its all in stinkin peecee/mac boxes now

alphajerk · 19th April 2004

i gotta S2000 but i have it hooked up via scsi on my 9600 to load stuff... which doesnt always work that well in MESA.

disc · 21st April 2004

already a big thanks,
my external SCSI HD is terminated by an external terminator (one of those little strrange blocks) . Now I don't know If Y should terminate it internally too for use without my PC . I'm gonna try to hook my sampler up to something else to test .

I know it's an old thing but someone gave it to me and I think it can be very handy on stage, shurely cause i want to avoid the use of a real notebook on stage.

thanks, and alternative ideas are always welcome

H

David R. · 21st April 2004

If the terrmination in not the problem, make sure you have the right scsi id number. You can set a number on the drive, then make sure the number matches in the Global menue.

lefthando · 22nd April 2004

I have owned and worked with a number of people who have owned Akai S2000s. All have told similar stories about scsi problems with the machine. I think they're just not very well made.

MESA is a very flaky program at the best of times, though I was able to make it work once in a while.

disc · 22nd April 2004

the SCSI ID is right, cause my sampler finds the HD but only when both (sampler and HD) connected to my computer when I startt up my computer (in DOS the pc passes a SCSI ID veryfication and recognizes my sampler's SCSI ID and my HD's SCSI ID). Even when I unplug my PC from the chain after starting the 3 together up, my sampler can work with the HD. It's when I just want to use My S2000 and the HD without starrting up with the pc, that the sampler doesn't find the HD. Mesa works well and I don't have problem's with that. I can even run the smapler to recycle wich is very handy. But if I can't load the HD into my sampler in a non PC situation, I am not much further.

greetz,

H

kaipiranha · 22nd April 2004

It might still be a termination problem. There are active and passive terminators. If you have a passive one, chances are that you can get your problems solved with an active one.

The bad news: They usually look the same.
The good news: They can be had for cheap on ebay.

Do a search for active/passive SCSI termination on google...

Cheers,

Kai

17th April 2004	#1
disc Gear interested Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Antwerp Posts: 3 Thread Starter	akai S2000 SCSI problem :-( I've got a question: I have an external SCSI HD, it's formatted and works just fine when it's connected to my PC AND my S2000. When I try to load samples from it when it's NOT connected to my PC, my sampler doesn't find the HD ! It only works when my HD and akai S2000 were connected to my pc when I start up my computer. This is very unpleasant because now I can't use it anywere else then at home. The HD was formatted by my S2000 so i think that isn't the problem. I also have a terminator SCSI but that doesn't make any difference. Can someone please help me with this ? thanks Hans

19th April 2004	#4
alphajerk There is only one Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: asheville NC Posts: 5,260	i gotta S2000 but i have it hooked up via scsi on my 9600 to load stuff... which doesnt always work that well in MESA. __________________ "i must invent my own systems or else be enslaved by other men's'" william blake __________________________ email: barrett [at] alphajerk [dot] com

21st April 2004	#6
David R. Lives for gear Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: I left my heart, in... Posts: 1,863	If the terrmination in not the problem, make sure you have the right scsi id number. You can set a number on the drive, then make sure the number matches in the Global menue. __________________ -David R. "An intellectual says a simple thing in a hard way. An artist says a hard thing in a simple way." - C. Bukowski

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kaipiranha Gear nut Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Gelsenkirchen, Germany Posts: 79	It might still be a termination problem. There are active and passive terminators. If you have a passive one, chances are that you can get your problems solved with an active one. The bad news: They usually look the same. The good news: They can be had for cheap on ebay. Do a search for active/passive SCSI termination on google... Cheers, Kai