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Old 14th June 2007, 04:05 PM   #1
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Film Score Mixing Sessions

I have heard of tutorial DVDs which enable you to mix other people sessions such as basic Pro Tools Certification Collection up to "Mix it like a Record", the song from EL.

I am a violinist myself about to graduate a recording school. I would like to know if anyone here who has worked on film scoring sessions that can send or give it to me, would do so?

It would be used for educational purposes only: I would just like to get a feeling of how it is to mix and entire orchestra.

I know that this can cause a lot of copyright issues, but I would be grateful and can assure you that it will be used as said above.

Thank you,

Dean Milenkovic
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Old 15th June 2007, 01:17 PM   #2
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No one?
Is everyone or
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Old 15th June 2007, 02:14 PM   #3
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I recently did a 20 questions video interview with Frank Wolf who recorded and mixed the upcoming movie Hairspray.

It should be online for you to see the interview in the next few weeks at Techbreakfast.com

I am doing an entire video series of 20 questions with various engineers, composers, producers and artist.
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Old 15th June 2007, 03:20 PM   #4
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hey,

i´m selling the "russ long´s guide to nashville" DVD on ebay right now. it contains the audio files of 2 songs for mixing.

click here

i don´t know but maybe it helps you a little bit

good luck...

btw. there´s also a website where you can download complete songs with all the single audio tracks. don´t remember the name right now.
but i think it was very cheap. 10 US for one project or so.....

the link is somewhere in a post here on GS. try the search function....
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Old 15th June 2007, 03:54 PM   #5
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Mixing an orchestra is easy. Setting up the room right is what's hard.
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Old 15th June 2007, 07:05 PM   #6
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It is all about mic placement. Until i get to that point this will suffice.

I do own Guide to Nashville, but my passion, as a violinist turned "engineer" lies in classical and film scores are close enough.

I cant find that link tod=ward complete sessions.
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Old 15th June 2007, 08:43 PM   #7
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Mixing an orchestra is easy. Setting up the room right is what's hard.
i'd go along with that.
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Old 15th June 2007, 09:58 PM   #8
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if you want some scoring footage I might be able to hook you up.

PM me the email
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Old 15th June 2007, 10:42 PM   #9
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I have heard of tutorial DVDs which enable you to mix other people sessions such as basic Pro Tools Certification Collection up to "Mix it like a Record", the song from EL.

I am a violinist myself about to graduate a recording school. I would like to know if anyone here who has worked on film scoring sessions that can send or give it to me, would do so?

It would be used for educational purposes only: I would just like to get a feeling of how it is to mix and entire orchestra.

I know that this can cause a lot of copyright issues, but I would be grateful and can assure you that it will be used as said above.

Thank you,

Dean Milenkovic


hmmm. not only copyrite. most of the times if not all. a lot of scores for TV , indie films and some movies will use an orchestra as an overdub for the composers sequences. TV shows and movies done in hanz zimmers studio for example use sequences and overdub a chamber ensemble.. several times to triple the sequences . the final mix will have the sequence and the small orchestra stuff at the end. except for some movies wherethe go to a big studio for a complete orchestra but even then they use sequences.
for big movies the recording engineer will mix the stems and create something really close to the final product when they record live big orchestras.

so i guess my point is to get some midi orchestra stuff or midi orchestras that where recorded to audio from the web and you as a violinist record your self several overdubs. not only u will learn how to mix and edit several takes to mke it sound richer but you will also be very good with your tone on the violiin which is pretty dificult. reason those violinist charge 200 bucks an hour or so for overdubs. (plus incredible sight reading)
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TV shows and movies done in hanz zimmers studio for example use sequences and overdub a chamber ensemble.. several times to triple the sequences .
not cost effective here in the uk. Its cheaper to hire bigger orchestra - you have to pay more for overdubs and it takes longer, plus adds to the recording minutes union rules. Cheaper, quicker and easier to hire more players...

just an aside...
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Old 13th March 2008, 05:03 AM   #11
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Where do you all get this stuff about Hans. No one does bigger live sessions than Hans.
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Old 13th March 2008, 08:45 PM   #12
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Where do you all get this stuff about Hans. No one does bigger live sessions than Hans.

Naaaa, Zimmers stuff isnt that big in one go - Black Hawk Down, for example, was very multitracked, no single huge performance. Howard Shore and John Williams gigs, wow, THEY can be HUUUGE.
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Haha, I'd go on what Ameyerson says. If its Alan Meyerson, he would certainly know what huge means!
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Haha, I'd go on what Ameyerson says. If its Alan Meyerson, he would certainly know what huge means!
Indeed ! Then he'll know what i'm on about! ;)
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Naaaa, Zimmers stuff isnt that big in one go - Black Hawk Down, for example, was very multitracked, no single huge performance. Howard Shore and John Williams gigs, wow, THEY can be HUUUGE.
You do realize that Alan is the guy who mixed that stuff (may have recorded it, too) and has done so with most of his scores. I think he'd know the specifics of Hans' sessions.
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You do realize that Alan is the guy who mixed that stuff (may have recorded it, too) and has done so with most of his scores. I think he'd know the specifics of Hans' sessions.
I know full well who AM is - Just commenting on "size of sessions" comment. ...... I was being a little glib, having worked a certain CTS large scale session.....;) VERY large... 161 people....
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Mixing an orchestra is easy. Setting up the room right is what's hard.

from my experience , mixing an orchestra is some of the most challenging mixing ive ever done. just as hard as anything else.
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