So, who's signed up for PMP (Production Marketplace)

[frank lyon]

I signed up with my partner 2 days ago to give it a try.

$50/month

anybody else using this?

http://pmpworldwide.com/DJ-Swindle


PMP Worldwide - The Music Industry's Source for Quality Production

[jb4play]

Originally Posted by frank lyon

I signed up with my partner 2 days ago to give it a try.

$50/month

anybody else using this?

http://pmpworldwide.com/DJ-Swindle


PMP Worldwide - The Music Industry's Source for Quality Production

PMP Worldwide - The Music Industry's Source for Quality Production

[(DC)]

$50/month sounds like a ripoff. I would rather pay hosting and get my own site.

[TonyBelmont]

Originally Posted by Bastitch

The $50 charge is to steer away wack dudes who aren't serious about their music. This is what keeps the site from becoming another "soundclick".

$50 a month is a ripoff, regardless of why they charge that much...

[computa]

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

$50 a month is a ripoff, regardless of why they charge that much...

was worth the investment. that $50/mnth turned into alot more $ for me and alot more other folks. every major label rap artists has a song dump on there and their people scour that site for beats and new producers. we do it too. Soundclick has too much crap to listen too and major label artists r not just gonna go to some dudes website unless he is known.

[mix-it-well]

50$/Month for some unpersonal contacts?
Get a manager folks!

[Ken Lewis]

The Skywalkers is my production company. About a week after we got on the site, i got an email saying they were featuring one of our productions, then next thing i know we were the #1 Featured Producers for about a week and still on the Featured List. THAT is definitely worth $50/month. Check us out PMP Worldwide - The Future of Music Redefined

[computa]

Originally Posted by mix-it-well

50$/Month for some unpersonal contacts?
Get a manager folks!

It's just a part of doing business and another option in addition to ur personal contacts.

there r major producers up there with a huge host of major credits and personal contacts already. But the industry is utilizing this service and it makes sense to stay on cutting edge and use it as another outlet in addition to beatin the street.

i understand about the $50/mnth or $430/yr (yearly rate)

[mix-it-well]

Well I don`t know.
Does anyone here makes money with the help of this site?
I mean ,you could get all the contacts via myspace easily. This service looks like one of these "pay us and an A&R will listen to your music" sites.
I think this is kinda lame ,but if it works ok.

[computa]

Originally Posted by mix-it-well

Well I don`t know.
Does anyone here makes money with the help of this site?
I mean ,you could get all the contacts via myspace easily. This service looks like one of these "pay us and an A&R will listen to your music" sites.
I think this is kinda lame ,but if it works ok.

U have missed the point of the site. I and many others have made $ and gotten on projects. If u have gone to the site u know its not lame.

The difference between this and myspace is that it is set up for the express purpose of getting ur beats to the artists. The artists and artists peeps want u to send them beats and they do listen on PMP. The artist and or labels set up the track dumps because they want material to hear. Myspace has 90% garbage producers on there. This is definately more of a professional industry type spot.

Some of the artists currently up there looking for music are:

Fabolous, Nas, BG, Big Boi, Kardinal, Red Cafe, Mya, Mims, Jadakiss, Lil Wayne, Joe Budden, Krayzie Bone, Busta, LL Cool J, Bun B, Lil Kim, Clipse, Young Buck, Jamie Foxx...

Some of u may not like these artists but if u serious about selling beats then thats not an issue. Plus go and listen to beats from other producers and see what it is. U can do that for free. See where u stack up against the real- a fact many r not ready to deal with.

[Ken Lewis]

One thing i can definitely say is that I've come to find out that PMP is founded and run by real music industry heavyweights. people who can facilitate the connection between artists, managers, labels, and producers. People who can actually make it happen, not just promise to make it happen. Those artists who have Beat Drops on PMP, they got there because of the people who run the site, and they use it.

That doesnt mean that just joining the site, you'll get put on. You still have to bring the talent to the table. It also really lets you know how good your competition is. If all you are doing is sampled beats, and you hear 50 other hot sample beats only on the featured tracks playlist, then maybe you have to take into question what your doing and how your doing it. If your sample beats slay the competition, then cool, if its just another one of the 50 hot beats on the feature section, your just a sheep in the herd.

You always, as a producer or artist or ????? have to find a way to bring people to you, make connects, and be original and hot at the same time. Not everyone is capable of that, but this site is for real.

But actually, dont bother signing up, just less competition for me.

[J Twin]

$50/month is nothing if it gets your beats placed. I'd love to get on with something like that, but it's still a lot of money for people like myself on tight budgets.

I listened through the first 23 featured tracks. There was one banger, one good track, two decent tracks, and the rest were bad to horrible. Using my dusty ass ears (it's been years since I did radio or owned a record pool), I'd say there was maybe 3 tracks tops out of 23 that have a chance at getting picked up. That leaves a lot of room for any of y'all with some heat.

[TonyBelmont]

Ya'll got me interested now... How much are people here making off this site?

[Ken Lewis]

Originally Posted by J Twin

$50/month is nothing if it gets your beats placed. I'd love to get on with something like that, but it's still a lot of money for people like myself on tight budgets.

I listened through the first 23 featured tracks. There was one banger, one good track, two decent tracks, and the rest were bad to horrible. Using my dusty ass ears (it's been years since I did radio or owned a record pool), I'd say there was maybe 3 tracks tops out of 23 that have a chance at getting picked up. That leaves a lot of room for any of y'all with some heat.

I certainly understand tight budgets. I was very poor in this music industry at one time. Having said that, i have always found investing in myself and my career to be very worthwhile investing. not everything has a tangible dollar return, not everything works out to be a great investment, but if you look at it as money spent developing your career, then you can better decide if its money well spent.

Most people i've known who say "I'll do this or that as soon as i see a few paychecks from this music thing" usually wait the rest of their career for that paycheck. Things dont just come to you in the music industry or life, you gotta go take them. and my assistant tells me my mix is back up and ready to work, so i'm gonna go take this record and mix the hell out of it right now so i can create more opportunities for myself.

[J Twin]

Originally Posted by Ken Lewis

I certainly understand tight budgets. I was very poor in this music industry at one time. Having said that, i have always found investing in myself and my career to be very worthwhile investing.

Everything you said is real, and I feel you. But when you live in one of the most expensive cities in the country and have shitloads of bills, man, sometimes that extra expense is backbreaking. Tax return time is coming, though, so I might drop $275 and see if 6 months brings me any progress. I'd be satisfied to sell a handful of beats a year for side money.

[filterayok]

Originally Posted by TonyBelmont

Ya'll got me interested now... How much are people here making off this site?

id love to know this too----how much $ is 'much more?'

[kriscain]

I am gonna get on the 6 month thing...
been meaning too for a minute, but i always forget about PMP, cuz i already have management and all, and i get track assignments from them...

on another note... i just signed up as a buyer, (cuz im also a artist)... and lordy, i love the level of competition at PMP... it's actually a good amount of really dope dudes.

checked you out too Ken...
you wild wit it bro... keep the music comin.

[gdeusthewhizkid]

I been on it for about six months now. Im gonna give it to about end of 08. If nothing happens with that then im canceling. That's a lot of money to shell out and nada.....

[mix-it-well]

Originally Posted by filterayok

id love to know this too----how much $ is 'much more?'

I would like to know this too.
How does a production submission work? Do you get an email adress or somethinthing and how do you know that they really check out your tracks?

[butterfly]

Been checking this out with a to joining . The most useful aspect looks to be the track dump whereby, I assume, you can "dump" your tracks for artists, and there are some major labels there, who are looking for material for upcoming releases. However it does say:

For producers that are on the next level you might want to utilize the "Track Dump" which is designed to give the best of the best the opportunity to participate in active, high profile projects from the majors as well as top indie labels.

I'm wondering if there is some sort of screening process going on here, ie. if you don't have any major label credits you don't get access to this facility? Anybody currently subscribed care to enlighten me.

[computa]

Originally Posted by butterfly

I'm wondering if there is some sort of screening process going on here, ie. if you don't have any major label credits you don't get access to this facility? Anybody currently subscribed care to enlighten me.

In process of listening thru the 107 beats we got in our track dump for a project. There's folks in there with no credits and folks in there with major credits.

[8th]

Originally Posted by J Twin

$50/month is nothing if it gets your beats placed. I'd love to get on with something like that, but it's still a lot of money for people like myself on tight budgets.

I listened through the first 23 featured tracks. There was one banger, one good track, two decent tracks, and the rest were bad to horrible. Using my dusty ass ears (it's been years since I did radio or owned a record pool), I'd say there was maybe 3 tracks tops out of 23 that have a chance at getting picked up. That leaves a lot of room for any of y'all with some heat.

that's one knock I have on this site, they need to let the standouts stand out. They give too many mediocre artists a featured track (dangling carrot, IMO) and the featured producers list is stacked with average beatmakers. If you go on there with tracks that are polished and industry ready, you shouldn't be piled in with this growing list of featured producers who clearly haven't gotten to that level with their tracks. I do know of a few producers who have developed a relationship with some of the more prominent A&r guys, but haven't seen it lead to anything yet. Also the site is, in part, run by some a&r guys and they are getting profits, so of course it would benefit them if they gave out their number to a few highly visible net producers to help lure in more people.

[8th]

Originally Posted by butterfly

Been checking this out with a to joining . The most useful aspect looks to be the track dump whereby, I assume, you can "dump" your tracks for artists, and there are some major labels there, who are looking for material for upcoming releases. However it does say:


I'm wondering if there is some sort of screening process going on here, ie. if you don't have any major label credits you don't get access to this facility? Anybody currently subscribed care to enlighten me.

anyone can join but the track dumps are screened. They have people that listen to the tracks and decide what goes thru to the A&R.
Now my question is, how much pull does an A&R guy really have over a project in the scheme of things? Do they play a big part in getting tracks to the artist and on a project?

[illynoise]

You guys will never learn......

[smoke]

I was not impressed at all by the beats on the 1st page (the red bar on the left).

Y'know I am too hard on myself. I don't consider being a pro at this, because my day job pays the bills just fine... and I always doubt my own skill level. I don't really take it seriously, so I'm able to experiment and have fun with beats. At the end of the day, I guess I've avoided making those cookie cutter beats. I try to dig a bit deeper than that, and touch some type of emotion. Or if not that, then make sure you can't help but to stand up and 2 step... leave some sort of impression that... "that was different"

I mean I can't touch the pro level sound of the tracks on that site, but the actual beats, sound and technique is all very similar. It all makes sense now how people always come to GS and ask "how did he get that sound" or "what are you using", "give me your kick settings" because everyone wants that sound. Well, it's all sounding the same, so I guess people are succeeding!

It really makes me want to take this more seriously though. Anyone can talk a good game... but if that is the result there on that site... that's the creme of the crop right there?

Yeah, I'm going to listen to more of the tracks on the site before I talk too much shit around here.



Just my opinion btw, no bunched panties I hope. (unless anyone share that opinion? )

[ReaLsoN]

I have a PMP account too. I gotta admit that I´m not very impressed with what I heard on the site so far. I have heard a few standout beats by producers I did not know before, so that was cool, but a lot of producers on the site sound alike to me (that actually goes for the majority of american beats I hear right now).

I believe the idea and the concept of the site is very good, and the people who run the site are nice too.

I´m unsure who decides on what´s gonna get thru to the A&R/artist.

I believe it´s a good thing to keep ya brand current and move with the times, so I embrace the new ways of doin that, but like any other site of that nature - I get a LOT of requests from people with little to no budget, which makes it pretty annoying at times.

Just my quick 2´s.

[TonyBelmont]

So, let me get this straight. They have over 800 guys paying for this service... they're making around a half million dollars a year off you guys. And, no one here is making any money off of being a member. It's too big... they got all these 800 guys sending in beats for track dumps.... how many of these 800 guys are really making it through or even being listened to... probably very few.

I'm in the wrong ****ing business.

[themaestro]

Originally Posted by computa

was worth the investment. that $50/mnth turned into alot more $ for me and alot more other folks. every major label rap artists has a song dump on there and their people scour that site for beats and new producers. we do it too. Soundclick has too much crap to listen too and major label artists r not just gonna go to some dudes website unless he is known.

$50 gets you into the vip at the club. every major hood rat and groupie is there to scour the club for dudes with money and a little fame. The regular part of the club has too many ugly hoes and the cute chicks r not just gonna go up to some dude unless he is known. Does paying that $50 guarantee that you're beating top notch buns by the end of the night?? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not hating, but it sounds like a big scam to me, and NOBODY that i have heard of has gotten any placements off the site, you cant count the dudes who were ALREADY in the game before the site jumped off...Also, the majority of the bigger name producers, myself included, are invited to join for free in order to raise the credibility (read PROFITABLITY) of the site

[NonSpecific]

It seems like if you are really talented then you can make use of this site...but they don't care how talented you are. It's a money-making scheme that just so happens to help a select few people out. My guess is that if your beatz are on "that next level" then you would be able to effectively shop your beats without the need to pay this site. I'm cynical when it comes to paying for exposures. It seems like you are basically paying for contact information and you are not even guaranteed to get that since there is a screening process. If you are confident in your skill and honest with yourself about it, then this website can probably actually help....but if not...

[ReaLsoN]

I wasn´t gonna say that, but like the other ppl I know on the site, I do not pay to be on there. I was invited by a business partner.

I have been wondering myself who really gets placements on the site with that many producers on there, plus having so many mediocre beats on there.