Attn: LA Slutz

[PT_geek]

Hey guys,

Monday afternoon, my house was broken into and robbed. Basically all my recording gear was gone, and a few guitars and pedals and such. I have already filed a police report. If you guys could keep a look out for this gear at your nearest pawn shop, GC, Sam Ash, eBay, etc. it would be MUCH appreciated.

AKG C414 SN:24150
Universal Audio 6176 SN: 2634
Digi 002 Mixer SN:TB1238500B
Presonus Central Station SN:CS15060343
API 3132 SN:?

I also had Digi HD2, but I do not have the serial numbers, yet. An Apple G5 was stolen with the 2 cards in it and a UAD-1. The serial for the G5 was G84442RZQPM.

For some reason, they left my 192HD interface and my JBL monitors. I have a good feeling the people that robbed me were friends of the present or past. Also, I dont think they have a clue what they stole. They only targeted electronics.

Hopefully I can recover the gear back, or at the very least find out who did it. Thanks guys.



Other misc. gear

Ampeg SVT 4 Pro Bass head SN:BTCD060023
Musicman Stingray (Black with red burst) SN:E44427
Jackson RR1T (but customized with a tremolo) transparent black (almost greenish) SN:U14628

[jmiller]

Geez! Sorry to hear about that. That is quite a brazen theft, taking so much stuff.

I hope you recover your stuff and those jerks are brought to justice

[PT_geek]

bump

[Berolzheimer]

That sucks, good luck getting your stuff back.

[Mydog_Nixon]

Sorry for your lose. I hope you catch them....

[stevep]

Total bummer...........



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[Tone Obsessed]

Sorry for your loss... When I leave the studio each day, I always "think" about that very scenario and how SCREWED I'd feel if it happened to me... Yah, it's insured, but MAN, what a violation! I'm sure you feel violated, too.

Hope you recover and NAIL those A$$h*les to the wall!

TJ

[APOHStudios]

It will be copied to my friend at Sam Ash in Rancho Cucumonga. He will post it on the board for employees to be on the look out for. Contact info just in case there is a hit on your gear? If they tell me about it, no big, I'll PM. But if someone found something for you and I was not available, how do they contact you?

Doc

[jetplane666666]

I really hope you get your gear back too. I have a studio in LA too and fear of this event is always in the back of my mind.

Could you post some details on how they gained access, was it a burglary or robbery, did they defeat the alarm system, time of day, etc., so as to educate the rest of us on methods thieves are using so that we can better protect our studios?

I remember the early 90's when people were being duct-taped and forced into closets while thieves loaded their gear out into trucks. It's been less off an issue lately, but with BT's robbery and now yours I wonder if dark times might be coming back to LA.

[Schmacko]

what the hell's up with LA lately? I'm supposed to be relocating there very soon, but this kind of stuff makes me a bit apprehensive.

On another note, whether it's true or not, I've been told that crime is getting pretty out of hand in LA with illegal aliens. I guess they don't give a f%@$! since the repurcussions for legitimate citizens don't apply to them. True?

[Fleaman]

Originally Posted by Schmacko

what the hell's up with LA lately? I'm supposed to be relocating there very soon, but this kind of stuff makes me a bit apprehensive.

On another note, whether it's true or not, I've been told that crime is getting pretty out of hand in LA with illegal aliens. I guess they don't give a f%@$! since the repurcussions for legitimate citizens don't apply to them. True?

Wow.

For one, he had a good suspicion that it was a past friend.

For two, what's with blaming illegal aliens? Check your facts. Illegal aliens are low on the crime radar, most criminals are American citizens, get used to it.

For three, LA is a big city and like ANY big city, it has its share of crime problems. Yet from this one post you seem to go OT on same racial diatribe? I suppose Detroit's or DC's crime problem is due to Illegal aliens? This posters said it was probably a past friend, which would know the expensive equipment he had....probably all in a house that like most houses, is easy to break into.

So, my advice to you is that LA has a BIG crime problem and is full of the people you are so prejudiced against....you don't want to move here.

[PT_geek]

Hey guys, thanks for all the support.

To answer the question about how they broke in....

I left a window open and they just crawled through. This is a low crime neighborhood, and have always left windows open and such for years. There has been a string of robberies in my 'hood the last week. Even one the next block over (who happens to be one of my brothers friends, so we now have a suspect). To make your studio safer, I would invest in an alarm. Make sure to get window break detection as well. Cops will respond right away opposed to 2 hrs later (which is what happened to me). So if anyone comes across a deal too good to be true, PM me. Im sure my gear is gone by now in some pawn shop. The two areas we are thinking that it might be sold in are Santa Clarita Valley and Panorama City (or near surroundings).

Thanks guys!

[RyanPitch]

Originally Posted by Fleaman

For two, what's with blaming illegal aliens?

Hmmm. He didn't blame anyone. He reported that he "had been told" from someone something. Which is really all any forum is anyway, right? Just a bunch of hearsay.

Racial diatribe? Would you freak out on him if someone were like, "Hey I heard that Gibsons were better than Fenders?"

I didn't read racism at *all* into his post.

[The MPCist]

Originally Posted by Schmacko

On another note, whether it's true or not, I've been told that crime is getting pretty out of hand in LA with illegal aliens. I guess they don't give a f%@$! since the repurcussions for legitimate citizens don't apply to them. True?

Being from LA, I'll chime in a bit. One thing to keep in mind is that alot of those so called 'illegals' are here to work and try to become legit in order for them to bring their families over to the USA and make a better life for their kids.

That

[CorkyTart]

Originally Posted by The MPCist

Being from LA, I'll chime in a bit. One thing to keep in mind is that alot of those so called 'illegals' are here to work and try to become legit in order for them to bring their families over to the USA and make a better life for their kids.

That

Being from L.A. I'll chime in a bit. What is a "So called ILLEGAL" supposed to mean? ILLEGAL is ILLEGAL and no politically correct euphemisim can change the fact that they are ILLEGAL and simply do not belong in the United States.

I'm tired of people making ILLEGAL squaters out to be people who are in the US to simply work. If they are just here to work, why do these "hard workers" make up 28% of the US prison population? Here is my message to any ILLEGAL immigrant: Get your ass out of the US and if you want to make a better life for you kids, how about demonstrating that you have to obey laws and apply for citizenship and maybe some good things will follow.

I have zero respect for the people who do not obey laws and I am so frickin tired of people coming into MY country where I pay taxes and having those tax dollars go to people who do not deserve one god damn dime of it. Free healthcare at the county hospital, fee education, free frickin' food stamps, free housing, grants.... and the list goes on. Screw you and what you want for your family, just because you want something, doesnt give you a right to break the law and take food/money/education out of my kids future just because you want it for your illegal kid and your illegal family.

I'm prepared for all the "you're a racist" comments. Try to come up with something better to say than that. I dont care where you come from, dont pick my pockets. I'll gladly boot the illegals and pay the extra penny per pound of tomatos. You probably have pegged me as some "nasty republican" and guess what? I'm not a republican. This is a common sense matter. I think GWB blows for not locking down the borders and taking immigration (illegal and legal) seriously.

To the inital poster: I hope you find your gear, all of mine was ripped off 10 years ago at an apt on the corner of Magnolia and Van Nuys so I know how you feel. The cops found the perps and they were gang members. I'd start checking the Recycler...

[Fleaman]

Originally Posted by CorkyTart

Free healthcare at the county hospital, fee education, free frickin' food stamps, free housing, grants.... and the list goes on. Screw you and what you want for your family, just because you want something, doesnt give you a right to break the law and take food/money/education out of my kids future just because you want it for your illegal kid and your illegal family.

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Healthcare> There's some truth to that. Emergency room care must be given to all...that makes sense. Visiting, legal resident (which pays taxes btw), even illegal. If you were critically hurt in another country, would the burden of proving you were there legally prevent emergency medical care? As for 'other' medical care, yes, it seems the one that is most abused are pregnancy births. Let's not forget that most of the 'abusers' if you like, are uninsured patrons and guess what? They're Americans. There no doubt is $$ being spent on illegal here, yet most of it is in the boarder states, like california. Nationwide in total, the burden of Illegal is a tiny portion of the healthcare crises....wouldn't surprise me if it was less than 1%.
Also, many illegals have health insurance...something like 20%. Plus, many pay for their healthcare out of pocket. Also, many illegals pay taxes in one way or another (fully or partially). Finally, most never see a doctor or go to a hospital...they are afraid of being deported.

Education. Agree, yet still believe it is a small fraction of students on a national level. Locally in LA, it would be higher.

Food stamps, housing, grants> Wrong. You don't get that w/o being an American citizen. Welfare is for pure Americans. Even the American citizen children of non-citizens (immigrants) are not covered.

Overall I'm trying to bring some sense to this issue...many overblow this problem as the catalyst for all problems affecting this country when in reality, the problems in this country are caused by real Americans. Illegal's $$ burden here is so tiny, I would bet that less than 1% of the cost of the war in Iraq would pay for all Illegal immigrant costs. Now, I agree that it is not exactly fair that you or I should pay anything, regardless of the relative costs. But this is something that every country has to deal with, and many are much more generous in this regard. Either way, it's a fact of life for humanity and at least here, to me, is hardly that big of an issue in real costs to get all bent out of shape over.

[Fleaman]

Originally Posted by RyanPitch

Hmmm. He didn't blame anyone. He reported that he "had been told" from someone something. Which is really all any forum is anyway, right? Just a bunch of hearsay.

Racial diatribe? Would you freak out on him if someone were like, "Hey I heard that Gibsons were better than Fenders?"

I didn't read racism at *all* into his post.

Ok, so his 'friend' told him. My response to 'blaming illegals' was to the comment of blaming illegals for crime getting out of hand, which I guess in this case is his 'friends' comment.

The analogy of 2 brands of guitars to this? I don't get it

[thenoodle]

I have a question.....do any of you know of some sort of electronic lo-jack type things that can be installed in electronics for police tracking if they are stolen? It seems I've run across the topic before, but I don't remember where or when.

[Fleaman]

Originally Posted by CorkyTart

I'm tired of people making ILLEGAL squaters out to be people who are in the US to simply work. If they are just here to work, why do these "hard workers" make up 28% of the US prison population?
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Here we have a classic case of a statistic spun by conservative spin-doctors. That 28% figure is for all 'Criminal Aliens'. A criminal Alien is any non-citizen residing here legally or not. Meaning that legal permanent residents are included in these figures. I myself am a British citizen that has lived here 30+ years and have a green card. I pay (have to) all taxes and can even be drafted if I were young enough. I just can't vote. If I was in prison, I would be included in that statistic.

The figure you want to look at is 'SCAAP criminal aliens'...these are the non-citizen aliens here Illegally. They are a subgroup of the full 'criminal alien' figure you posted.

As for immigrants and crime; here is a link showing immigrant population doubling in the same time period that violent and property crime dropped 10% or more>

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17355097/

Again, I'm not a tree hugger, just one who likes to bring some sense to the issue, that's all.

[Schmacko]

Originally Posted by RyanPitch

Hmmm. He didn't blame anyone. He reported that he "had been told" from someone something. Which is really all any forum is anyway, right? Just a bunch of hearsay.

Racial diatribe? Would you freak out on him if someone were like, "Hey I heard that Gibsons were better than Fenders?"

I didn't read racism at *all* into his post.

Thanks for actually reading my post, Ryan. I just caught up and saw how things erupted here. How much more unprovocative could I have been with the question I asked??

So, Fleaman, you should have actually read my post before insinuating that I went on a

Originally Posted by Fleaman

racial diatribe

. The only diatribe that transpired was initiated by yourself when you selectively reinterpreted (perhaps fabricated would be a more appropriate term) what I wrote in order to unfairly use me as an excuse for your socio-political bloviating. I don't appreciate that...AT ALL.

Originally Posted by Fleaman

Ok, so his 'friend' told him. My response to 'blaming illegals' was to the comment of blaming illegals for crime getting out of hand, which I guess in this case is his 'friends' comment.

Once again, re-read my post. I never blamed illegal aliens for the above mentioned theft, or overall crime problems in general - LA or elsewhere in the U.S. And at no point did I say a "friend' was the source of this. You sure like to put words in people's mouths, don't you? You should consider putting your foot in your own mouth.

If it matters to you, the claim about increasing crime among illegal alien LA community members came from a local business owner who had just moved his family and business out of the community and his claim was that crime amongst illegal alien community members played a role in his decision.

I did ask a question regarding the level of crime among people who are illegal aliens. Moreover, my original response to this thread was about the increasing amount of thefts in typically lower crime areas of LA. There have been a handfull of posts here on gearsultz, as well as stories from people I know from LA where property theft has seemed to be on the rise in places previously less known for such crimes. Thus, I asked a question aimed at individuals living in the LA area to hear their opinions.

Finally, Fleaman, I think the fact that I posted the above questions to the LA forum members only further validates the fact that I questioned the generalizations I was hearing and did not take these opinions as fact. Unlike you, I asked for more information - not making conclusions, generalizations, or accusations without substatiation. While you, on the other hand, made gross accusations against myself.

If there's anything to gain from the ignorance you've shown in this thread, it's that the next person you unwittingly slander can reference your reactions in this thread and take your comments with a grain of salt.

[Fleaman]

Originally Posted by Schmacko

So, Fleaman, you should have actually read my post before insinuating that I went on a . The only diatribe that transpired was initiated by yourself when you selectively reinterpreted (perhaps fabricated would be a more appropriate term) what I wrote in order to unfairly use me as an excuse for your socio-political bloviating. I don't appreciate that...AT ALL.

Once again, re-read my post. I never blamed illegal aliens for the above mentioned theft, or overall crime problems in general - LA or elsewhere in the U.S. And at no point did I say a "friend' was the source of this. You sure like to put words in people's mouths, don't you? You should consider putting your foot in your own mouth.

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what the hell's up with LA lately? I'm supposed to be relocating there very soon, but this kind of stuff makes me a bit apprehensive.

On another note, whether it's true or not, I've been told that crime is getting pretty out of hand in LA with illegal aliens. I guess they don't give a f%@$! since the repurcussions for legitimate citizens don't apply to them. True?

You've been told crime is getting out of hand in LA with Illegal aliens. The only group of people mentioned in your post about crime problems getting out of hand is with 'Illegal aliens'. To me your post seemed racial or at the very least, generalizing that illegal aliens are the cause of crime getting out of hand.

"what the hell's up with LA lately" had caught my eye...along with the other comments, it appeared to me as a racial diatribe. Maybe that was an extreme end of a view, but this was my opinion and it seems there are a few that might of felt the same way and a few that didn't. Maybe it wasn't racial, I have to consider your defense of that.

Finally, maybe you should of read the original poster...he clearly said he had good reasons that it was a past friend. So where did this whole comment about Illegal aliens come from? This comment in the context of this thread just seemed so out of place to me. I mean, you're accusing me of generalizations?

Maybe I misjudged you, if so, sorry. If not, then maybe it's not my foot that should be carefully placed.

[Schmacko]

Originally Posted by Fleaman

You've been told crime is getting out of hand in LA with Illegal aliens. The only group of people mentioned in your post about crime problems getting out of hand is with 'Illegal aliens'. To me your post seemed racial or at the very least, generalizing that illegal aliens are the cause of crime getting out of hand.

"what the hell's up with LA lately" had caught my eye...along with the other comments, it appeared to me as a racial diatribe. Maybe that was an extreme end of a view, but this was my opinion and it seems there are a few that might of felt the same way and a few that didn't. Maybe it wasn't racial, I have to consider your defense of that.

Finally, maybe you should of read the original poster...he clearly said he had good reasons that it was a past friend. So where did this whole comment about Illegal aliens come from? This comment in the context of this thread just seemed so out of place to me. I mean, you're accusing me of generalizations?

Maybe I misjudged you, if so, sorry. If not, then maybe it's not my foot that should be carefully placed.

Finally, maybe you should of read the original poster...he clearly said he had good reasons that it was a past friend. So where did this whole comment about Illegal aliens come from? This comment in the context of this thread just seemed so out of place to me. I mean, you're accusing me of generalizations?

What part of the phrase "on another note" don't you understand? Since you don't seem to, the phrase is usually indicitave of a change of subject to avoid taking things out of context as you have done. So, I was deliberately making an effort for my second question to not have any bearing to the initial question.

Further, the fact that the original poster suspected the theif to be a current or former friend was where my question, "What the hell..." came from. It's alarming, the amount of people nowdays who are so void of moral values. And, it seems that a lot of people having gear stolen lately happen to reside in LA, hence my asking "what the hell's up with LA lately?" I can see where one would find this initial question vague, but not by any means racial.

...it seems there are a few that might of felt the same way and a few that didn't. Maybe it wasn't racial, I have to consider your defense of that

Actually, I didn't see any posts, thus far, agreeing with you calling me a racist. One person didn't see the post as racist at all, another made the comment that many of these aliens are working for the well being of their families, and a third disagreed with you about the politics of the illegal alien situation. If there was any undesireable assumption to be made about my question, I suppose you could accuse me of being "patriotically xenophobic". But, I can clarify that's not the case. Also, if you have to consider my defense, perhaps you should have done just that before slandering me as a racist?

The only group of people mentioned in your post about crime problems getting out of hand is with 'Illegal aliens'. To me your post seemed racial or at the very least, generalizing that illegal aliens are the cause of crime getting out of hand

Where did I ever make a proposition about the causality of crime? Your assumption of me generalizing that illegal aliens are causing the crime is from your own misguided extrapolation. There are certainly other communities, individuals and groups who will collectively contribute to an increase in crime rates. For instance, there is a dedicated FBI task force who's responsibility is to handle the Armenian community in LA. Does this make me a racist towards Armenian's because I said the FBI pays attention to them? I don't think so.

[APOHStudios]

The majority of illegal aliens (hmm, alien, always envisioned them coming here by flying saucer) here in SoCal actually are decent hard-working individuals. But as with any group of people, there is a small portion that gives the group a bad name.

Personally, I don't care where a person comes from, just if they contribute to society in a positive fashion.

Most of the crime here in SoCal is committed by criminals. (Kind of ironic isn't it?) But if I have to point out any particular group, I would say that it was primarily done by those idiots that are drug-addicted or that feel they don't need a real job since they can sell the stuff they stole from others.

Thieves have a really special place in my heart. This is where I favor Islamic law's answer for theft. Cut off their hand. Extreme, yes. But a real deterrent. And I would gladly be the one to mete out the punishment.

As to:

Get your ass out of the US and if you want to make a better life for you kids, how about demonstrating that you have to obey laws and apply for citizenship and maybe some good things will follow.

How about making changes in their own country? Support them in doing so. I do support "them" in looking for a better life, but isn't coming here taking the easy way out? What they should be doing is making life better for themselves and their fellow countrymen by improving their country. Just a thought.

Doc