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Chris hi, Just read your message, made me laugh. I hear ya. I somewhat battled with this artist about average levels. He really wanted me to push up towards -3 AVERAGE! I talked him off the ledge and we got it so it hangs around -6 -8 with peaks up to -.2 at the max. Well, like you, I'm so sick of dealing with LOUD. Gotta give 'em what they want but it sure hurts to let something out the door knowing it sounds a ton better if they'd just trust the consumer to use their ****ing volume knob. Anyways... appreciations for your comment. Happy 2013 mark