CD_Text and the short run duplicator

[chadly]

So here's a question for all of the mastering and duplication/replication types out there:

Have you ever burnt a master with CD_Text and gotten it back from the short-run plant without it?

I mastered a record using Wavelab for the assembly. I'm %99 certain (as the client has the master, not I, or it'd be %100) that it went out with CD_Text.

The shrinkwrapped discs that came back didn't have it. . . The discs are CD-Rs (that's what I mean by short run, BTW)

There's no angry client or anything, but I'm curious. . . am I going crazy or are there some short run duplicators (machines) that don't carry CD_Text over? Is that even possible?

[Cellotron]

My 3-1/2 year old Octave CD Copymaster tower (loaded with 5 Teac 24x burners) does indeed strip out any CD Text present on the master even if the CD-R master's image is loaded to the tower's internal hard drive first. I'm sure there are plenty of other CD-R duplication systems in current use that do the same.

If you need to guarantee that CD Text on the master will be present on the copies, I'd advise getting them replicated (i.e. pressed CD's from a glass master) instead of duplicated, confirming with the replicator that they can indeed transfer CD Text (some of the older software used in the glass mastering process doesn't), and including full documentation of the CD Text on the cue sheet you send with the master.

Best regards,
Steve Berson

[MASSIVE Master]

I've had a client or two call up about that -

[Sticky Shed]

Yes. Two short-run projects of mine have just come back together sans CD text. They also skip. There will be pistols at dawn :-)

[chadly]

Whoo hoo! I'm not crazy! If I have a say, I always recommend replication over duplication, but sometimes it doesn't always work out that way!

One more reason to get it pressed from a glass master rather then duped.

Many thanks!

(A quick note: CD Text was on the included cue sheet. As was a C1/C2 scan from plextools.)