Mastering tools in logic 7

[jonutarr]

How quality are they Anyone use them? how do they compare to plugins like Waves, UAD, Ozone, Massey Plugins, etc
Thinking of a Logic pro purchase and it will be hard to say no if their mastering suite is good

[Ashermusic]

Originally Posted by jonutarr

How quality are they Anyone use them? how do they compare to plugins like Waves, UAD, Ozone, Massey Plugins, etc
Thinking of a Logic pro purchase and it will be hard to say no if their mastering suite is good

Logic comes with very decent usable plug-ins but no, they are not mastering quality. You might also consider a UAD-1 card.


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[mars]

Sorry, I beg to differ...

The Adaptive Limiter is very good - easily the equivalent (or better) of the Waves L1/L2. Logic also includes a decent 8-band Linear Phase EQ. I know a few guys who use the multiband Mulitpressor, but I personally don't like it.

One thing though... the workflow in Logic just isn't suited to mastering - it's tempo-based and the internal routing options are limited, IMHO. Doing it in Waverburner (included with Logic) isn't too bad.

[Ashermusic]

Originally Posted by mars

Sorry, I beg to differ...

The Adaptive Limiter is very good - easily the equivalent (or better) of the Waves L1/L2. Logic also includes a decent 8-band Linear Phase EQ. I know a few guys who use the multiband Mulitpressor, but I personally don't like it.

One thing though... the workflow in Logic just isn't suited to mastering - it's tempo-based and the internal routing options are limited, IMHO. Doing it in Waverburner (included with Logic) isn't too bad.

You are of course entitled to your opinion but if that is what you think I will not be recommending you to master for anyone

[andreªs]

Logic user since V1.0 (long, long time...)

But I never would touch it's plugs for mastering. No way!

Massey plug-ins are another level, but you will need ProTools.
I have the L2007 and love it! thumbsup

[gsilbers]

it has delay compensation so it works fine if you are doing wide stero techniques. as suposed to pro tools le.


the plugins are ok. they do what they are supoosed to do. as for quality, other choices are better, but for features for price its great. even more so with the educational discuont.


there are a couple of videos out there about mastering in logic and you can make the desion for yourself.

http://www.macprovideo.com/tutorial/logicPlugins1


logic has some useful tools depending on your needs . if you are doing mastering on your own live recordings, or just for fun/demo... then yes , logic plugins is more than ennough. if you are doing more semi-pro work then you better start in the mixing stage and ask for good plugins to mix your tracks. after that you take to a profesional mastering engineers that doenst have plugins but real , high quality gear and even better... experience.

[jonutarr]

Originally Posted by andreªs

Logic user since V1.0 (long, long time...)

But I never would touch it's plugs for mastering. No way!

Massey plug-ins are another level, but you will need ProTools.
I have the L2007 and love it! thumbsup

I would be the first person to by all of Massey's plugins if he brought them out for AU or even VST, one thing I will NEVER go back to is Pro Tools and that crappy mbox, i think HD is a rip off to, just really hate the PT sequencer, in music school and at home i had far to many problems with it

Would like to try the UAD collection but i work on a ibook, am i right assuming that the UAD-1 card will not work with laptops?

[illynoise]

I've done some mastering in Logic, but I wouldn't recommend it. Actually I wouldn't recommend using a mac for mastering at all. The workflow in most mac programs aren't as fast as the mastering programs on WinXP.

If you are mastering on the mac, especially a new mac do yourself a favor and get bootcamp and wavelab. It works.

That's just my opinion.

AFA Logic goes, the adaptive limiter is about as good as I've seen, but for some stupid reason it's not available in Waveburner!!! The Multipressor isn't as good as wavelab's multi comp, but I would say that for Mastering, you might get into the PSP plugins and then you would be set.

One thing that I will say for mastering for MP3 output, Logic is by far the best encoder PERIOD. I don't know what they do, but it's great!

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Illynoise

[Jerry Tubb]

Originally Posted by Ashermusic

You might also consider a UAD-1 card.

Good suggestion Jay. Just spent a week with a producer who brought in his G5 with 002 Pro Tools and UAD card to use as a source playback machine. We used the Fairchild, Pultec, and EMT plug-ins... to sweeten up some raw acoustic songwriter tracks, fun stuff, love the "vintage" plugs. Then I ran it through my Analog path (Sontec 432, Manley Vari Mu, etc.) into PT HD, and burned the masters with WaveBurner.

Originally Posted by jonutarr

Would like to try the UAD collection but i work on a ibook, am i right assuming that the UAD-1 card will not work with laptops?

No PCI slot on the iBook for UAD card, iirc. Logic is a great tool for composition & production, never tried it for mastering.

Originally Posted by illynoise

Actually I wouldn't recommend using a mac for mastering at all. The workflow in most mac programs aren't as fast as the mastering programs on WinXP.

Macs have worked great for us for 16 years...