Secondary reference speakers (whaddaya using?)
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Secondary reference speakers (whaddaya using?)

Curious to see what speakers you're using for secondary (or third) reference?
(or are you using any?)

Mixcubes still look popular. Any other suggestions?

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Curious to see what speakers you're using for secondary (or third) reference?
(or are you using any?)

Mixcubes still look popular. Any other suggestions?

thanks
Avantone mix cubes are useful for determining the relative volume between tracks when not played on a full range system. I also have a pair of Usher audio BE 718, these are really underrated speakers, designed by Joe D'Appolito and the US version have the crossovers tweaked and upgraded by Danny Ritchie, who helped design the crossovers in the tyler D1s.

I am using both of these with my D1s and they make a great system.
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I liked my Tyler D1's so much, I had him whip me up a set of D4M's.

After jumping from smallie-to-smallie, it's nice to finally have a set that actually sounds nice (if only in a limited capacity). But man, it's fun to crank the snot out of them when a client is in the room and you have to tell them to look at the woofers when they don't believe it's those speakers...

That said - Comparatively, they definitely sound "small" and definitely do the job when it's needed.
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NS-10's and Mixcubes here....
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NS-10's and Mixcubes here....
Same here.
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Avantone Mixcubes (active) here also.
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Ye ole' NS10s. Hope to grab some cubes.
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NS-10s and a single small active 2-way speaker made by a company called Anchor. It's like a really tiny PA speaker, or a broadcast monitor.
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Just the mains (Duntechs and twin Legend subs) when mastering. We can pump things out via AirPlay to the 2.1 satellite speakers and sub in the lounge if requested. I often do a fresh playback at home via headphones or my two-way Desiére studio speakers.
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A couple of old pairs of sealed-box KEFs. They do the same job as NS10s but are cheaper, sound nicer and look cooler

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Little speakers

Custom made.
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Custom made.
Very nice!!

Did you design them yourself?

I built my mains, but didn't design them. Designed by CJD from the DIY section of the home theater guide forums. There are brilliant people over there.
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I actually use a whole secondary system in a different room. A pair of Paradigm 3SE cabinets are fed via consumer grade receiver via S/PDIF from the control room.
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Custom made.
whoa that thing looks awesome. do u have any more info on it?
the texture reminds me of the little guy in that Tool video.

EDIT: oh and i guess I'll throw mine in; I'm using good ol' avantones, powered by rotel. It's funny, sometimes i actually enjoy listening to music on them, particularly stuff from the 60's/70's
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I have a small pair of Polk Audio speakers form Best Buy. Great for those "what will it sound like on my speakers" moments.

They are also great for understand why some mixes sound the way they do - especially mixes with way too much bottom. Lots of people track and mix on 8 octave speakers. Hearing a mix on a similarly band limited system is helpful to understand what the mixer was thinking and to make his mix translate onto a full range system without ruining it for band limited systems.
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I've got a pair of Avantones on little stands atop my side-rack, powered by a Carver ZR500 amp.. I kinda hate them. I maybe turn on the amp and check something on them once every month or two, and aside from any useful purpose served, they kinda make me want to strangle puppies, just a little bit . . .

I occasionally consider getting some small 2-way "bookshelf" speakers to replace them (like Greg's Polks), but have very little time or enthusiasm for the research and shopping.
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I've got a pair of Avantones on little stands atop my side-rack, powered by a Carver ZR500 amp.. I kinda hate them. I maybe turn on the amp and check something on them once every month or two, and aside from any useful purpose served, they kinda make me want to strangle puppies, just a little bit . . .

I occasionally consider getting some small 2-way "bookshelf" speakers to replace them (like Greg's Polks), but have very little time or enthusiasm for the research and shopping.
Honestly check out the Ushers, they are frightfully close to the tyler d1s on certain material, and can be picked up cheap second hand. If I blew a tweeter on the d1s I could easily master on the ushers.
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I have a set of Dynaudio Acoustic BM6P (Munro design version) here for secondary, I know them and love them for specific things. I always felt single driver loudspeakers have limited use in mastering but they do occasionally provide useful information in specific circumstances. I use a 4-5 inch single driver speaker for that, much like an Auratone. As someone said above, used around once a fortnight or so but worth having for those moments.
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Auratones here
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Nubert nuPro A-20. A remarkable little desktop monitor that sells for under €600 a pair.

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PT s post

PT, great custom build. Zolatone paint finish? Great contour lines and I like the self power amp on board. +1

Oh, my own custom mains, but I used PSB 2 ways from Canada as 2nd Ref.

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Since I got the Focal SM9 I've only used those and never felt the need for a second reference system. Things have been always spot on.

Having said that, the Fostex 6301B is a great speaker for checking mixes and I wouldn't mind just having one to check stuff in mono.
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I use a stereo boom box, one of those U$50 things ( cassete tape + cd player + radio) and sometimes listen to a cd-r at my car ( a Honda Fit), aiming the 30-300 HZ content behavior.
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Having said that, the Fostex 6301B is a great speaker for checking mixes and I wouldn't mind just having one to check stuff in mono.
those fostex ones are definitely more in line with most people's crappy computer speakers. I also check things on my macbook speakers from time to time. unfortunately A LOT of people are listening to music on them
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I just upgraded my mains so I'm thinking of moving up from some super old auratones. Has anyone heard any of these boxes? I'm intrigued.
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