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Wavy-ness and distortion

Hey Everyone!

I'm pretty new to mastering and I recently did a Master for a friend and we're trying to figure out a problem to a solution that I was hoping someone would know. Hopefully I attached the file correctly haha.

He said on his Dad's Bose system that the song sounds "wavy" and "over driven" I think I figured out the wavyness. On my TV has a audio setting called "steady Audio" turning that off seemed to work for the wavyness, but I'd have to hear it on his system to know. Also, he said when the vocal comes in on the verse the guitar goes away. (im thinking its because you start focusing on the vocal, but I didnt key input the vocal on the guitar when I mixed it) As for the distortion I think I maybe be hitting the limiters to hard and not compressing enough...??? It defiantly sounds like an over saturation type distortion to me because it didn't distort before I "mastered" it haha

If you listen to the file, obviously he wanted it as loud as possible. I don't really want to start a "loudness war" debate type thing, I just want to maybe get/share ideas, pointers, and techniques. Thats the whole point right?

Any pointers on this master? Maybe even changing the mix or tracking?

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Sounds waaaaaaay too loud to me.
Too much compression/limiting artifacts eg "vocal comes in on the verse the guitar goes away", kick is gone compared to the beginning, highs are distorting.
Although its hard to tell what you have happening without the unprocessed mix.

I would suggest not thinking of "mastering" as just "making things loud".

The master at the very least should sound just as good as the mix when you pull it back to the same level. Otherwise what is the point?
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Dito. This is one of the hottest masters I've heard and it's not even the type of song where people typically want it super hot. There's just no way to get the mix that hot without harming the quality. I'll ask yet again why making people jump for their mute button is so important to everybody.
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Thanks for the feedback guys! I don't hear the highs distorting of kick going away at all. I did more than throw a limiter on the track and pull the threshold down so I wouldn't really call it JUST "making it loud"

I don't really like tracks slammed either but its what he wants so, yeah I dont know haha.

I defiantly appreciate the comments guys! I'm going to listen again to see if I can hear what you're hearing
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Stinky fingers, these articles are awesome dude! thanks for the link! I did use a limiter with ISP but like a said, I'm still pretty new at it so I'm probably doing many other things wrong haha. Everyone go read these!
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