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22nd July 2006, 02:06 AM
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| Lives for gear  Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Hamburg
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| eq hey guys, would you mind giving me some good eq "starting points".......i am just trying to fresh up some old tracks. any replie is as always very appreciated style is rockish.............lots of guitars and stuff like that...
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22nd July 2006, 02:39 AM
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 | Without sounding "typical" - There are no starting points. You listen and you do what the mix tells you to do. "Hmmm... That could use a boost in the high end" "Wow - Those lows sure are muddy" "Eek! The 2.5kHz in those guitars is killing me!" Then you do it.
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22nd July 2006, 03:20 AM
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| errh... thats what i expected...........i always think my mixes sound too dull......so i keep pushing in highs and high mids............i am thinking about new converters right now. anyways, i thought somebody might have some nice eq points to share............. ch  rs
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22nd July 2006, 04:01 AM
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Try posting some examples of your mixes. That's the only way you'll get any pointers that mean anything. Good luck. | |
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22nd July 2006, 03:12 PM
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| What are your monitors? And is your room adequately treated? Dull mixes are often a product of a monitoring environment that doesn't represent the low end effectively, and thus encourages the mixer to add low end or roll off high end while mixing. Not saying you don't need to know how to EQ! Just saying that if your mixes are turning out dull on a regular basis, the converters you are using are only one thing to re-evaluate. The room and/or the monitoring should be suspect, as well. |
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23rd July 2006, 05:59 AM
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| May be off topic, but I've found a "rash" of people lately that complain of similar things - Lack of clarity & focus in the high end - A lot of them were simply tracking too hot - "Getting the levels hot without clipping" and essentially overdriving the preamps - and everything else on the input chain. Not saying that's the issue here - But perhaps worth mentioning...
__________________ John Scrip - Massive Mastering - www.massivemastering.com Spoon-feed a newb some answer and he'll mix for a day - Get him to *think* about it and figure it out for himself and he'll mix for a lifetime. |
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23rd July 2006, 01:36 PM
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__________________ Velvet Room Mastering "What quality level does it need to be? Personally, I work on mixes that range from marvellous to hideously diabolical.......I'd suggest you aim more towards the "marvellous" end of the scale!" - Darius van Helfteren - | |
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23rd July 2006, 08:05 PM
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| Here is the other thing, monitoring too loud makes for dull mixes. 82 to 84 dB is the high / low (even) crossover in the brain. If you are monitoring to loud then it's easier to hear the high end right, well guess what your mix is going to be out of whack. It will be dull. Just like with a low level you don't hear the top as well, so you pile on the "air" and make a mix that's overly bright. Try backing the level off to the 82 dB mark and see how the mixes come out. Just some food for thought. |
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24th July 2006, 12:25 AM
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| thanks for all the replies so far.........is there such thing as the "ideal" monitoring loudness?
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24th July 2006, 04:18 AM
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Too loud and you make it too bright/bassy. Too quiet and it's dull/thin. Can't fool the equal-loudness countours. DC | |
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