Prism Sound Lyra

[shelterr]

It doesn't have AES connectivity so I am not sure they really hit the mark here. Many in the mastering community use a two computer system and this device can only be connected to one computer. I can see it being a high end Apogee Symphony killer, but more I/O options would be needed for it to be a slam dunk in the mastering community.

[bendermastering]

Originally Posted by shelterr

It doesn't have AES connectivity so I am not sure they really hit the mark here. Many in the mastering community use a two computer system and this device can only be connected to one computer. I can see it being a high end Apogee Symphony killer, but more I/O options would be needed for it to be a slam dunk in the mastering community.

It does have AES/EBU through a supplied adapter cable.

Orpheus has more I/O options.

[paintitblack]

A few days later and only 2 replies. Looks like it may not! Lol

[hanuman]

It took a lot of time before Orpheus was discovered. Now competitors are copying it's design to divert customers.

[shelterr]

Originally Posted by bendermastering

It does have AES/EBU through a supplied adapter cable.

Orpheus has more I/O options.

Well shit! This is exciting news then.

[Mardi Gras]

Nobody will EVER pay £1850 for a 2 input interface.

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[silverking]

Originally Posted by Mardi Gras

Nobody will EVER pay £1850 for a 2 input interface.

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I would posit that, Prism being well versed in market research, they'll actually sell thousands of them.

Prism are no strangers to bringing big ticket items to market......and then selling them

[energizer bunny]

Isn't this strange that Prisms new affordable interface has tumbleweeds blowing through here. In time I'll bet this thing will get a lot of love. Prism labs make something special and now us non-trustfund peeps can get our hands on that. Its a good age. I still say "do not buy anything until you actually need it". By then it will probably be cheaper.

[IMAWriter]

Originally Posted by dropd9

AudioMedia - October 2012

I would have to imagine this new "mini Orpheus" will be getting some love here!

I may be wrong here, but unlike Orpheus, I don't believe there is any onboard DSP/reverb, etc.
Please correct me if I'm missed the boat here.

BTW, as this is prism we're chatting about here, the fact there are 2 onboard mic press and Prism AD/DA conversion, their asking price doesn't seem unreasonable.
My .02.

[robot:.]

Using only the AES I/O on the LYRA2 via RCA/XLR adaptor it would appear you would get a stereo pair of AD/DA. To access the rest of the I/O it would have to be optical or USB.

[jrhager84]

For the price, I'd rather get the Forssell MADA-2... Just sayin'...

[bendermastering]

Originally Posted by IMAWriter

I may be wrong here, but unlike Orpheus, I don't believe there is any onboard DSP/reverb, etc.
Please correct me if I'm missed the boat here.

BTW, as this is prism we're chatting about here, the fact there are 2 onboard mic press and Prism AD/DA conversion, their asking price doesn't seem unreasonable.
My .02.

The Orpheus does not have on board DSP, reverb or any of those. It has an integrated mixer only.

[David Rick]

The DSP capabilities of the Orpheus are:

• integrated mixer
• SRC on digital input OR output (not both)

The DSP capabilities of the Lyra 2 are:

• integrated mixer
• SRC on digital input or output
• SNS noise shaping on digital output

The Lyra 1 is similar, but SRC is on digital input only.

I've always admired Prism's SNS noise shaping, and once rented an older Prism box to get it for a particular project. These days you can get similar functionality in software from iZotope and others. I'm not certain if the SRC on the Lyra 2 is any different than what's on the Orpheus, which I find rather limited: because it's not bi-directional, you can't use it to digitally interface a lower-rate reverberator (e.g. Lexicon PCM91) to a 96k DAW mix.

[jamesp]

Originally Posted by dropd9

AudioMedia - October 2012

Very disappointed in that article - they simply dressed up a press release to make it look like a review. I can't take Audio Media seriously.

James.

[Henry Olonga]

I think that's just a preview as opposed to a full review.

[bendermastering]

Originally Posted by David Rick

The DSP capabilities of the Orpheus are:

• integrated mixer
• SRC on digital input OR output (not both)

The DSP capabilities of the Lyra 2 are:

• integrated mixer
• SRC on digital input or output
• SNS noise shaping on digital output

Orpheus has SNS on digital output.

[David Rick]

Originally Posted by bendermastering

Orpheus has SNS on digital output.

Where? I'm looking at the Orpheus mixer applet right now and I don't see it.

[bendermastering]

Originally Posted by David Rick

Where? I'm looking at the Orpheus mixer applet right now and I don't see it.

On the drop down menu where you choose the digital output bit depth (24 or 16) there are also four SNS settings available.

This drop down menu is on the output section of the Orpheus software, on the D/O track.

[jamesp]

Originally Posted by Henry Olonga

I think that's just a preview as opposed to a full review.

It was featured on the front cover and the article was in the reviews section so they certainly tried to dress it up to look like a review. Yes, there was the word preview in small print if you went looking for it but I would have expected more than a rewritten press release from a decent magazine.

James.

[troxelj]

One of my big regrets with gear was selling my Orpheus when I bought a Mac computer, thinking I was trading up to an Apogee. Months later I had the opportunity to A/B the Apogee with a friend's Orpheus and we both preferred the Orpheus.

The only other unit I was considering was the Lynx Hilo (I already have preamps so it seemed wise to save money and go with Lynx instead to Prism). But yesterday a friend of mine loaded the audio samples from this thread onto his system and we compared them;
Lynx Hilo, MH LIO8, Orpheus, Lavry Black Shootout (Music & test tones).

We both thought the Orpheus sounded better than everything else - except the Lavry Gold. I can't afford the Lavry, but as a quality-driven, home studio owner recording high-end acoustic instruments, I'm convinced that Prism is the best I can do.

One other plus about the Lyra2; I can use those preamps in addition to mine if I ever need to record more than two tracks at a time. Frank Oglethorpe told me that that both Lyras have two analog inputs but the Lyra 2 has digital i/o capability too. So if your outboard pre has a Toslink, SPFIF or ADAT output you will be able to get up to twelve inputs at 44.1/48, eight inputs at 88.2/96 and four inputs at 176.4/192.

Y'all do what you want, but I'm buying the Lyra2.

[studioland]

well this lyra is exactly waht I would need but the price is really too high compared to an Orpheus
3225 to 4495 = $1200

for 25% of the Orpheus you lose 2 mic pres and 6 analog in and outs ...
it's too much
Should be priced around 2200-2500$
Too bad the idea is good and it has USB whereas Orpheus doesn't

[morgs500]

Originally Posted by shelterr

Well shit! This is exciting news then.

So is this thing going to sound just like the orpheus ????

[Winny Pooh]

Originally Posted by studioland

well this lyra is exactly waht I would need but the price is really too high compared to an Orpheus
3225 to 4495 = $1200

for 25% of the Orpheus you lose 2 mic pres and 6 analog in and outs ...
it's too much
Should be priced around 2200-2500$
Too bad the idea is good and it has USB whereas Orpheus doesn't

Exactly, price is a bit insane.