Can't decide on best Mastering Daw for mac.

[siriusbliss]

Nope. It's obviously delayed.
Isn't even out in Alpha or beta testing yet.

MAY see something around NAMM timeframe, but I don't know.
Maybe Tim knows more and can post an update.

G

[807Recordings]

We are not in Beta testing yet for Samplitude/Sequoia on Mac yet. The developers though are working very hard on this as I am sure Tim has already posted a few times. I would say this is one of the larger requests we get here in Dresden on the support lines.

In boot camp the software runs well and I personally also use it on my own studios with my MacBookPro.

Cheers,
Bob Braun
Samplitude Dresden, Germany

[reynaud]

Originally Posted by Ben F

If you are used to Sequoia, anything on the Mac is a dog unless you want to do the most basic tasks such as CD assembly and burning masters

That's simply not true. It always comes down to workflow and in fact I moved from Sequoia to soundBlade due to the improvement in workflow. Whether it's editing (incl. S/D editing), audio restoration or assembly and outputting DDP, soundBlade is just more efficient and Sequoia is seeing much less use.

If you're working with surround, video capture or need to integrate with radio content management systems, well that's another story. Although Musync may warrant a Sequoia update as it's faster than soundBlade's equivalent.

cheers,
Reynaud

[Thor]

Hey there Jerry!

I <3 my SonicEQ. Use it all the time for ITB work, it's really good.

Used it today to shave a bit off the extreme bottom end of a few tracks that had a bit much bass bloom, worked perfectly (in sBHD - both in the EDL, and in the Master section).

So I agree with you, as I posted originally, if you're not entirely ITB, sBHD is definitely a contender!

Since we use outboard, I don't really know what peoples ITB workflow is like, or if they really need a gazillion plugins, or only a select few.

IME Sony Oxford stuff works very well, as do PSP and of course the included SonicEQ. The only real problem I've had was with flux's plugins, and they caused major headaches repeatedly (to be fair, they did in several DAWs, not just sB) so I gave up on them.

Have a great weekend!
Thor

Originally Posted by Jerry Tubb

Yo Thor!

I used Sonic EQ in both 44.1k & 96k sB HD sessions yesterday to fix some vocal plosives, the client loved it.

Also PSP Xenon Limiter is in most of my soundBlade HD sessions.

Best, JT

[silverking]

Originally Posted by siriusbliss

...... but I don't know.


G

Sounds like a couple of folks from Magix know

[G>SUS]

I use DSP-Quattro and it is simple to work with very straight to the point and does Do what I need, Stefano is a great support via emails and explain very well! alt ought I would like to see some updates on the DAW for flexibility. I have Wavelab and haven't have that much time to play (work) with, but seems bulky when you open it. (i need a day to figure out that program)

[tpad]

Can you loop audio in real time through Soundblade HD? Is it implied somewhere in the uploaded diagram?

[Jerry Tubb]

Originally Posted by tpad

Can you loop audio in real time through Soundblade HD?

Yes of course!

Sonic invented the idea long ago before other DAWs even existed.

It's a matter of routing from the Source to Destination panels, with analog EQ path in between if needed.

Best, JT

[Jerry Tubb]

Here yah go:

[tpad]

Jerry, thanks. That's what I thought. I've read claims that Sonic's EQ sounds as good or better than other digital equalizers, hardware or software.

[dcollins]

Originally Posted by Jerry Tubb

Here yah go:

Is that what it looked like when the app froze?


DC

[siriusbliss]

Originally Posted by silverking

Sounds like a couple of folks from Magix know

Again - they don't know DATES!
Last couple times anyone from Magix has mentioned dates, they have always missed it.

It's not even in beta yet.

It's already October (as I write), and if they are planning SOME sort of Mac-based release by January NAMM, then they better get going!

Most of the discussions on the forum now are more about Windows 8 testing than anything to do with Mac.

If history is any hint with re: to how Magix operates, I can only assume that ANY Mac-based versions of their programs will probably be on the consumer side (i.e. Music Maker) before we see anything on the Samp. / Sequoia side.

G

[Jerry Tubb]

Originally Posted by dcollins

Is that what it looked like when the app froze?

DC

No freezes here bro'!

Just a screen grab of a test session.

Goofin' around with the Manley VM outputs are the sharp amplitude changes.

My finely tuned Sonic Universe:

Original Mac Pro tower, OSX 10.6.8, 8GB, Lynx AES-16e, sB HD 2.02.

Very few plug-ins.

Once/week repair permissions, once/month blow out sB prefs.

Best, JT

[bendermastering]

All this talk about DSP Quattro made me download the demo version of it and I'm very impressed. I'm considering moving away from Reaper+Wave Editor (or Triumph) to DSP Quattro as it seems it can do everything I need in only one app.

I need more testing but first impressions are very good. I remember trying DSP Quattro and it didn't impressed me but it was an early version, it evolved a lot from those times.

[Table Of Tone]

Nothing rockin' it on a mac for capture for me yet!
soundBlade HD sounds great but I don't like working with it to assemble with.

WaveLab 7 works great for assembly on a mac but I'm not totally convinced on how it sounds compared to WL 6.

soundBlade HD for playback (Mac)
WaveLab 6 (AudioCube) for capture (Pee Cee)

(I'm probably gonna get a load of stick for even suggesting any of the above but....)

[Chris Bauer]

Originally Posted by Table Of Tone

WaveLab 7 works great for assembly on a mac but I'm not totally convinced on how it sounds compared to WL 6.

I am not keen on the way WaveLab 7 handles a number of my third party plug-ins, but sound wise it seems absolutely fine.

[JNS]

Hi. I'm curious about something regarding these programs. I originally used(and still do some) Sound Designer II and MasterList CD from Digi. I've recently gotten DSP-Quattro and really like it. Stefano has been great as far as support goes and has implemented some of my suggestions.

What I'm wondering is if any of the current programs work like SDII and MLCD did where, after editing an individual song, the CD-assembly part of the program can point to the individual song's playlist without actually having to first export the edited song as a new soundfile. In DSP-Q I first have to export my edited song (which was done using the CD Playlist mode) as an audio file to later be imported into the overall CD playlist. Now I realize at today's harddrive prices disk space is pretty cheap so that's not really such an issue, but it still takes the extra time to do the export function and,of course, I'm just used to doing it the old way because it's fast.

I've actually been wanting to see if Stefano might be able to implement something like this in DSP-Q (unless I've just missed it and it's already there).

Thanks for any comments.

[Table Of Tone]

Originally Posted by dcollins

Is that what it looked like when the app froze?


DC

Ha Ha....I just tried to use sBHD to convert PCM to DSD and completely stacked the app
sBHD will remain playback only for me.

[sdaino]

Originally Posted by JNS

What I'm wondering is if any of the current programs work like SDII and MLCD did where, after editing an individual song, the CD-assembly part of the program can point to the individual song's playlist without actually having to first export the edited song as a new soundfile.

Are you referring to the intermediate audio file created by the application before to burn the audio CD? If yes, the answer is that, in principle, it is possible.

But now, differently from the past, there are plug-ins. I mean, the burning process could be set to have a very much faster than 1x real time speed (sincerely, I don't know of built-in drivers supporting the 1x burning speed), and the plug-in chain could need very much more CPU when processing the off-line audio stream at such faster speed.

Let's do an example: the burning speed is 16x. The app, burning without an intermediate audio CD disc image, should feed the burning engine 16 times faster than when playing it in real time. In most cases, having several plug-ins loaded, it would cause an under-buffer error because the burning engine would be too fast asking for a new buffer, I guess...

BTW, surely I'll add an option in the preference to make the audio CD image file to be a temporary file, so DSP-Quattro will delete it after the burning process. Otherwise it is a potential waste of HD space, you are right!

Thanks
Stefano Daino
www.dsp-quattro.com

[Jerry Tubb]

Originally Posted by JNS

Hi. I'm curious about something regarding these programs. I originally used(and still do some) Sound Designer II and MasterList CD from Digi.
<snip>
What I'm wondering is if any of the current programs work like SDII and MLCD did where, after editing an individual song, the CD-assembly part of the program can point to the individual song's playlist without actually having to first export the edited song as a new soundfile..

I used that stuff back in the 90s, it's an outdated workflow IMO.

Most newer app integrate those functions into one application, where the EDL's timeline Is the playlist. If you need to do extensive editing a song, you can do it on a separate EDL, and copy/paste it into the main EDL. Each each DAW handles this a little differently, try the different demos, see which one makes sense to you. One DAW should be able to handle the whole task. Or you can use two different DAWs to pitch and catch like some of us, for maximum flexibility.

Best, JT

[JNS]

Jerry, thanks for the reply. I understand what you are saying and that is exactly what I'm wanting to do....be able to put an individual song's playlist into the main playlist. Yes, I know that SDII and MLCD are both very outdated, but for basic, no-frills mastering I keep using them because of the workflow that you describe.

Stefano, thanks for the reply. Basically, I am looking for a way to import an Audio CD Layout for one song (CD Layout No. 1) into another Audio CD Layout (CD Layout No. 2) without first creating an audio file or image file of CD Layout No. 1. The CD Layout No. 1 is used only for non-destructively editing the single song. What you suggested (making the audio CD image file a temporary file with preference to delete after burning the CD) would also be a great option to have to save space.

BTW, I did receive your email you sent to me on Friday (Subject: Fwd: Email question) and I sent you a reply. I hope you received it. Please re-send your previous email responses to my emails of 10-15 and 10-20.

Email: JS848@aol.com

Thanks.

Jeff