first Rage Against The Machine album to be remastered??!?!

[cdog]

Remastered? What a joke, this album is an example of nearly perfect recording, mixing, mastering - you just don't **** with perfection.

[Joelistics]

Completely agree! It's plenty loud albeit at no compromise as it is... Argh

[sat159p1]

Agreed. It's one of my reference when it comes to rock/alt music. Perfect mix and mastering.

[kosmokrator]

Yeah but they will use the coveted flat MBit dither on that and maybe it even will be released in 96kHz!

That will change everything!

[Everbeatz]

to screw perfectly sounding album, what an excellent idea (my first facepalm on GS ever)

[Red Mastering]

wonder who's gonna 'remaster' it ??
a famous gentleman who fuc...d up many great albums
last Jane's Addiction, RHCP, etc
that's madness...:(

[Suda Badri]

im excited and sad... like when a woman leaves you

[Michael Grafl]

At the moment there is one RATM debut record that sounds great.

At some point in the future there will be two versions of said RATM record, of which one will sound great, and the other one either great or not so great. Some people will maybe enjoy listening to the new version more than the old one, others maybe won't.

Is this a bad thing?

[paintitblack]

You guys don't understand. They are remastering all the old demos and b sides from when ratm just started, the old songs that were never professionally mastered. As well as mastering the live shows.

[Pezz]

Originally Posted by Suda Badri

im excited and sad... like when a woman leaves you

haha brilliant. And I feel the same way.

Was there ever a vinyl version, I vaguely remember looking for it and being told it was only released on tape and cd. Richer Sounds in Plymouth used to use it to demo hifi systems standard many years ago.

In my top 5 albums of all time for sure.

[Everbeatz]

Originally Posted by paintitblack

You guys don't understand. They are remastering all the old demos and b sides from when ratm just started, the old songs that were never professionally mastered. As well as mastering the live shows.

Ok, then I appologize

[Audio X]

Originally Posted by paintitblack

You guys don't understand. They are remastering all the old demos and b sides from when ratm just started, the old songs that were never professionally mastered. As well as mastering the live shows.

.. as well as remastering the debut album.

Contains never-before seen early concert footage and full 2010 Finsbury Park Victory Concert along with remastered debut album, original demos and treasure trove of videos and music.

Typical of a record company trying to re-package and re-$ell something successful.

[dubmunkey]

Originally Posted by Michael Grafl

At the moment there is one RATM debut record that sounds great.

At some point in the future there will be two versions of said RATM record, of which one will sound great, and the other one either great or not so great. Some people will maybe enjoy listening to the new version more than the old one, others maybe won't.

Is this a bad thing?

Seems like a massive waste of time and money if nothing else

[RichArien]

That's why I don't buy new CDs anymore (or not all), I prefer to do some research and then look on ebay for the exact release I'm looking for (vinyl or CD) most of the time I get them cheaper too.

[radic]

Waves L2 limiter plug in, squash the mix 3 or 4 db........... aaaaaaaah re-mastered.

[Sir Chris]

Originally Posted by radic

Waves L2 limiter plug in, squash the mix 3 or 4 db........... aaaaaaaah re-mastered.

Are you sure? It could be a PSPaudio Xenon instead lol.



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[lowland]

A timely reminder for me: I heard the album when it first came out, courtesy of Bleach who I was working with at the time, but for some reason never got around to buying it.

This thread nudged me, and it's just turned up from Amazon - 1992 version, mastered by Bob Ludwig. Great stuff, surprisingly dynamic and a good example of every part of the process coming together. I notice it plays very well at moderate volume, I've no particular desire to crank it up, it just works.

As well as the obvious rap influence, sounds like RATM had been listening to early Black Sabbath - I think I remember Neil from Bleach mentioning that at the time.

[weezul]

well, got a copy. Exactly as predicted. About 4db reduction needed to match the original. I can hear distortion in the verse of Take The Power Back. ****. THAT.

[siamhatter]

I had it on vinyl when it came out but my girlfriend at that time kept it. My record player was crap anyway so the CD version was an improvement to me.

[The_K_Man]

Originally Posted by weezul

Really? I thought it was damn near perfect. Not too loud, not too weedy. I can only assume it's gonna get smushed

We must find out who to write to prevent this mess from being launched, and flood their mailbox with TONS of US Post Office mail! :D

[The_K_Man]

Some idiot over the summer donated both their original CDs of "RATM" and "Evil Empire" to my local Goodwill. Guess who now owns BOTH of them, for just $6!

[Owen Gillett]

If you don't like it don't buy it.
I won't be!

[wado1942]

Man, I hope they're not actually remastering the 1992 album. It's already super hot for its day... -8dBfs RMS on the high points.

[Soundmaster Alex]

I just listened to this recently on my headphones, it really does sound awesome! Certainly doesn't need the sound changing, hopefully they just repackage it.

[The_K_Man]

Originally Posted by Owen Gillett

If you don't like it don't buy it.
I won't be!

"Not buying it" is not enough. We also need to stick it in their ear - or inbox - that we don't want them messing with our favorite music - be it Rage or the Bee Gees or Roy Orbison in the name of more profits.

We must Rage against the money grubbing remastering brickwalling Machine!

[deathromantik]

The problem is if it replaces the old one; then fans who don't all ready own it will be forced to buy an inferior version.
Personally I would prefer some Deluxe box set; All the albums on vinyl and CD, a T-shirt, stickers and a poster all in a metal tin.

[Red Mastering]

I love original record,
it's one of my fav for monitor/system check
in this genre a real gem

btw, could anyone point me to any 'remastering' which wasn't a complete fu£$ up ?
what 'remastering' means is slapping extra 4dB rms and creating flat, 2-dimensional recording
shame on them 'remasterers' !

[The_K_Man]

Originally Posted by Red Mastering

I love original record,
it's one of my fav for monitor/system check
in this genre a real gem

btw, could anyone point me to any 'remastering' which wasn't a complete fu£$ up ?
what 'remastering' means is slapping extra 4dB rms and creating flat, 2-dimensional recording
shame on them 'remasterers' !

Good sentiment Red, but be careful with your last sentence! You're like blaming the soldiers for Vietnam.

Blame must be leveled where it's due. Most mastering engineers don't just decide they're going to squash the life out of these legacy recordings. It's coming from label execs and in some cases the artists themselves.

Write letters to those two groups of people, but be nice. Tell them you like their works, and you are afraid that original sound will be lost in the reissues. The key is numbers. We all have to man our PENS and KEYBOARDS, and let them know.

[deathromantik]

The first Sisters of Mercy album "First Last and Always" was so quiet on the original version, Despite being recorded at Strawberry Studios the production was lacking. The 2006 remaster is better you can actually hear all of the instruments.