Exporting 24 bit masters from 32 bit Nuendo Projects

[HotRats]

Originally Posted by Farview

We are talking about Nuendo, not Protools. Unless I'm wrong (very possible) but protools is 48 bit fixed. The dithering question hinges on whether it's fixed or floating point, not the actual word size.

I know we're talking about Nuendo. I thought (but I may be wrong) that the basic "ruels" are the same on every seqencer.
Diffrent codes and algorithm but same ruels.

Yes PT HD/TMD has a 48bt fixed mixer and not a 32bit flot.

I'm just trying to understand how things work in the box.

[bob katz]

Originally Posted by Farview

We are talking about Nuendo, not Protools. Unless I'm wrong (very possible) but protools is 48 bit fixed. The dithering question hinges on whether it's fixed or floating point, not the actual word size.

That's right. Pro tools HD and TDM (NOT LE) expliitly dithers on the output of its mixer to 24 bits. It's the right thing to do for fixed point. But in floating point it gets a bit iffy. I err on the side of "if you can dither, it might help and won't hurt".

BK

[bonne]

Originally Posted by bob katz

But in floating point it gets a bit iffy. I err on the side of "if you can dither, it might help and won't hurt".

BK

What about using a fixed point plug-in, Bob, like the double precision Waves L2, and do your dithering with that?

Would that result in proper fixed point dither or would the Nuendo floating point math override the fixed point processing and mess things up?

[Bob Olhsson]

I use the old L1 for 24 bit dithering in PTle. The key is making sure no signal processing or gain changes are happening downstream from the plug-in you use for dithering.

Samplitude defaults to always dithering from 32 to fixed point. I suspect this is a big part of why people think it sounds better.