urgent delivery question

[DaveE]

You can burn yours to a disc, then create an ISO from that. Most CD burning software can create an ISO image.

[bkuijt]

Cue (with a .bin) might be a good option.
the .cue file is a playlist and the .bin or sometimes a .wav file is the audio content.
I believe Exact Audio Copy (EAC) can rip a CDR to a .cue/.bin fileset.
Exact Audio Copy
Sonoris DDP creator can also export a cue sheet with .wav file.

Alternatively you could consider to chop the album tracks in separate wavs and let them make a new master... :-(

[Lagerfeldt]

I second using Cue/bin or Cue/WAV like DDP Creator does.

[t_d]

i was able to save the file out of Toast as a cue/bin and have sent it to them... we'll see if that works!

[Greg Reierson]

Or one of the proprietary DDP players from Sonoris or Tonic.

[inlinenl]

No ISO for audio .... never.

[Virtalahde]

Originally Posted by inlinenl

No ISO for audio .... never.

And yet many so-so plant request it. Never had to actually do an ISO yet, though.

[kosmokrator]

I'm always baffled by this.

Here, I never had to work with a plant that couldn't accept DDP masters in the last 5 years.

And that was not always the big ones.

[Thor]

DDP usually, there are a few 'burn it in the basement' ops that want ISOs though.

From Sonic I deliver a Jam image which Toast can read and re-export as a bin/cue file. It's worked fine the handful of times I've needed to do it.

Thor

[t_d]

i think DDP is much more common in EU... i come across it very rarely here in america.

the plant i use for my own record label does accept DDP, but only if mailed in on a CD-R.. which sort of defeats the purpose for me! internet transfer and DDP were made for each other.

Originally Posted by Thor

DDP usually, there are a few 'burn it in the basement' ops that want ISOs though.

From Sonic I deliver a Jam image which Toast can read and re-export as a bin/cue file. It's worked fine the handful of times I've needed to do it.

Thor

[ThomasE]

Cue/wav or cue/bin gets my vote as well.

Originally Posted by Thor

DDP usually, there are a few 'burn it in the basement' ops that want ISOs though.

Just curious, how do you create an ISO-image from an audio CD? I've always thought that ISO is for data / CD-ROM only, but I hear about using ISO for audio CD's from time to time.

[shteyven]

Massively curious and just jumping in, but why no ISO for audio?

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[inlinenl]

you may feel this world is in total chaos, no order, we all just do as we please ......... BUT .. ISO stands for ???? ... right .... , and now we hand it over to our tamed racing_driver, some say he hates the dutch .. all we know he's called the STIG.

ISO images of CD-Audio discs cannot be made for reasons that are not well understood outside the IT community. It must be understood that the CD-Audio standard does not have a conventional file system that can be easily represented by ordinary file system file formats like ISO. File system representation systems like ISO are primarily aimed at representing Hard Disk (and CD-ROM, DVD-ROM and Blu-ray) file systems.

CD-Audio discs do not use a computer file system, but are formatted in tracks with track numbers, index points and a CD time code that are encoded into the lead-in of the CD-Audio disc.
These reference points are found throughout the CD-Audio sub-channel, a practice not used in Hard Disk file systems.
To store an accurate copy of a CD-Audio disc, a different image format must be used. The DDP or BIN/CUE are the equivalent of the ISO file format for CD-Audio use.

okay ....

[Bob Olhsson]

People who duplicate CD-Rs almost always want a physical disk.

[JR465]

Originally Posted by inlinenl

our tamed racing_driver, some say he hates the dutch .. all we know he's called the STIG.

....

7 time champ perhaps...

[Greg Reierson]

Originally Posted by JR465

7 time champ perhaps...

... if so, he should try to get the STIG job back...

[Thor]

By ISO I simply meant a "disc image", since the same term is often used by IT ppl. But correct, technically you can't ISO a CD-DA.

We do on occasion deliver DDP on CD, it's no problem at all, it's just data. We have custom printed Taiyo-Yuden CD's with a printed template indicating exactly what is on the disk and in what format. Additionally, we deliver DDP's to plants in the US and Canada as well as Europe on a regular basis, although it seems brokers prefer not to deal with DDP and often ask for a physical CD-R. Just delivered DDPs last week to Discmakers in NJ and another to a label in the UK, and one to Canada 3-4 weeks ago.

We don't make bin/cue's from physical CD's normally, but from the Jam image using Toast (Mac only). I'm sure there's something equivalent on Windows (Nero perhaps?).

DDP is in many ways similar to a PDF - it's a description of the complete contents and layout of a physical medium, including the data itself. Not exactly the same, but maybe this gives a rough idea.

Cheers,
Thor

[DaveE]

Originally Posted by inlinenl

No ISO for audio .... never.

Interesting. I've done it a few times with Nero and it worked perfectly, but there wasn't any fancy spacing between the tracks- just all the audio tracks lined up one after another.