Just got a rap track back from mastering, has deep subs, rms hitting -4, okay?

[mastertone]

? Not looking at your meter, does it sound good?

[lu432]

How does it sound?

[jeremycox]

Good! Loud. Im slightly concerned that radio, itunes conversion, might be especially destructive at these types of dynamic range?

[Laurend]

Where's the room for the voice?

[jeremycox]

Yeah the mix is separated. Not a lot of low mids in the mix
Also, I ducked away some of the subs against the vocals as they were very static throughout the song. This gave the sub a little more dynamic anyway.
Needless to say its very commercial rap.
Thanks

[Greg Reierson]

Originally Posted by jeremycox

Good! Loud. Im slightly concerned that radio, itunes conversion, might be especially destructive at these types of dynamic range?

How does it sit with other stuff in the genre?

Pull the limiter back a bit and print a master at -1-2dB for digital distribution and you'll be covered both ways. OTOH, maybe that's the sound they expect from that genre.

[lu432]

If it sounds good and you play it in I tunes and it sounds good, and it sounds good on various smaller systems than you should be fine. Good luck on your project

[Dene]

Originally Posted by lu432

If it sounds good and you play it in I tunes and it sounds good, and it sounds good on various smaller systems than you should be fine. Good luck on your project

+1

[bryan k]

convert it to a 192kbs MP3 and listen to it on your headphones.

I find its easier to hear digital overs and nasty clipping/distortion easier when its MP3 and on headphones.

[Greg Reierson]

Originally Posted by bryan k

convert it to a 192kbs MP3 and listen to it on your headphones.

I find its easier to hear digital overs and nasty clipping/distortion easier when its MP3 and on headphones.

It's somewhat of a moving target as the lower the bit rate the more clipping there will be, but it is representative of how a lot of people listen.

[CJ Mastering]

Originally Posted by bryan k

convert it to a 192kbs MP3 and listen to it on your headphones.
I find its easier to hear digital overs and nasty clipping/distortion easier when its MP3 and on headphones.

Its best to listening to it in its original mastered format. Making it go through an MP3 conversion isn't necessary. If there are overs/clipping, you will hear it in the original master.

[jeremycox]

There aren't overs, but obviously there is some clipping at these levels.
The client likes it, so we are keeping it. Its a little too much for me

[bryan k]

Originally Posted by CJ Mastering

Its best to listening to it in its original mastered format. Making it go through an MP3 conversion isn't necessary. If there are overs/clipping, you will hear it in the original master.

Totally true, you will hear it in the original as well.

But I like to bounce down to a low bitrate Mp3 and listen at it at this state, cause Mp3 or any compressed digital format is the most likely way the music is going to be purchased.

It helps to know what the end user is going to hear, cause most likely they wont be buying the 16/44.1 Wave format version. If it sounds fine in low bit rate, it will wound all that much better on all other formats.

[vladg]

Originally Posted by jeremycox

Just got a rap track back from mastering, has deep subs, rms hitting -4, okay?

For such anomaly RMS and subbass it looks like this track has DC offset. Try to filter DC out and then check RMS metering again. (I'm not 100% sure, but why don't check?)

[dcollins]

Originally Posted by vladg

For such anomaly RMS and subbass it looks like this track has DC offset. Try to filter DC out and then check RMS metering again. (I'm not 100% shure, but why don't check?)

It's just the RMS meter reacting to the bass.


DC

[Alécio Costa]

Chorus at -4 RMS or just a short passage?
-4 RMS for a long section sounds completly crazy!!!