looks like sound forge for the mac is now available

[The Generator]

Bought it online yesterday. Sony made my day!!!
I have been waiting and hoping they would make mac versions so I can quit using bootcamp. Awesome!

Didn't have much time to use it yet, but it looks hot rodded.
Still similar enough to older layout that I know where to look for functions.

DEAR SONY - NOW MAKE VEGAS ON MAC... PLEASE!

[Tarekith]

I can't tell from the website, does it burn CDs or make DDPs?

[tpad]

Looks like a nice application. Too bad someone at Sony decided NOT to make it compatible with 10.6.8, so I won't be using it. Their spec sheet states 10.7 (and above). Really makes you wonder what kind of pinheads are involved with their marketing decisions.

[RichArien]

Originally Posted by tpad

Looks like a nice application. Too bad someone at Sony decided NOT to make it compatible with 10.6.8, so I won't be using it. Their spec sheet states 10.7 (and above). Really makes you wonder what kind of pinheads are involved with their marketing decisions.

Well.. to be honest this has to do more with the development team and the way Apple licenses their SDK stuff.. for Apple you have to change your computer every year so they will artificially do anything in their hands to make it obsolete as fast as they can

[MAzevedo]

Originally Posted by RichArien

Well.. to be honest this has to do more with the development team and the way Apple licenses their SDK stuff.. for Apple you have to change your computer every year so they will artificially do anything in their hands to make it obsolete as fast as they can

Really? I've been using Macs for a long time now, and one thing I've always liked about them is that I seem to get more years of use out of a system than I do out of my Windows systems. Purely anecdotal, I know. But, I average around 5 years of use on my Macs before I need to upgrade which feels good to me.

[tpad]

I saw an interesting statistic the other day, where it was stated that of all the Windows operating systems in general use out there in the wild blue yonder, 46% are still Windows XP. I can see why, since I use it and have no compelling interest or desire in dumping a good, stable, easy-to-use-and-maintain OS.

Most of the chitchat here on GS suggests that the majority of Mac OS X professional users are still no higher than 10.6.8, for the same very good reasons. That's why I suggest that they didn't use a lot of smarts in not making the program available for those of us who KNOW BETTER than to go upgrading into a can-of-worms!

Maybe they need to inherent a little of our smarts :-)

[NickRundall]

It doesn't seem to burn CD's or export DDP's!! What's that all about?

[EL_HERALDO]

Originally Posted by NickRundall

It doesn't seem to burn CD's or export DDP's!! What's that all about?

true story bro, no burn cd, no ddp export and import ... also would be nice to be called sound forge 10 for mac, so it's a new way to get money on both sides

[DSD_Mastering]

Originally Posted by EL_HERALDO

true story bro, no burn cd, no ddp export and import ... also would be nice to be called sound forge 10 for mac, so it's a new way to get money on both sides

On the Windows side you get CD Architect which does burn CD's.

[tpad]

Right! CD Architect is a good app. If I did feel compelled to run Sound Forge, I could just as easily install it on one of my XP Pro workstations and run it from there.

I just think that it was poor planning on their part to introduce a new Mac OS X version and not make it available to what are probably the majority of X users (10.6.8). Maybe others see it differently.

[huejahfink]

Did you maybe try to run the demo?
I'm not suggesting it would work, I'm on XP anyway - but I've certainly seen instances in the past where software will have a recent OS specified but work on the older version of the OS anyway.
It could just mean that they only thoroughly tested it on the newer OS.

[John T]

It won't burn a CD??? Seriously! C'mon Sony! The only reason I still have my PC around is for Sound Forge. I guess I'll wait until the "get it right".

[jamesp]

Originally Posted by John T

It won't burn a CD??? Seriously! C'mon Sony! The only reason I still have my PC around is for Sound Forge.

Has Sound Forge ever burned CD's? I thought that was the job of CD Architect.

James.

[Jerry Tubb]

Originally Posted by Tarekith

I can't tell from the website, does it burn CDs or make DDPs?

If it doesn't, then this thread belongs in a different forum, not in mastering.

Just sayin'

JT

[huejahfink]

Originally Posted by Jerry Tubb

If it doesn't, then this thread belongs in a different forum, not in mastering.

Just sayin'

JT

Hmm not sure about that. There's plenty of mastering relevant software and hardware that doesn't burn cd or export ddp.
So Izotope RX doesn't belong in mastering section, because that doesn't burn CDs?
Or a Sontec eq doesn't belong in the mastering section because it's not a lathe?


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[Franco]

Originally Posted by jamesp

Has Sound Forge ever burned CD's? I thought that was the job of CD Architect.

James.

Yep, and maybe Apple won't even release CD Architect (since they've decided optical drives are soooo early 2000's):

Serial killing Apple plans optical drive murder in future iMacs | Computerworld Blogs

CD Architect is great, never have had any issues with pre-master CD sources using that and a Plextor Premium drive, Windows XP (I think I had my first Plextor 8/20 running on Windows 98) and since like the late 90's. ZING!

[Thomas W. Bethe]

So far I am not impressed with Sound Forge 10 for Mac. The inability to bun CDs and or DDPs makes it NOT a mastering program I would want to use . Wavelab 7 for the Mac does have the capability to burn CDs and do DDPs but it costs a bit more and the interface is, IMHO, a bit wonky compared to WL6. I just installed Adobe Audition on the Mac and it is very nice again some problems. It seems when the port over a program to Mac they forget that Mac users are a different breed from PC users and want things done in standard Mac fashion. Most of the programs that are ported over still look like PCs on a Mac. FWIW and YMMV

[jamesp]

Sound Forge is an audio editor - not a complete DAW. It is best used as one component in a more complex system with other tools for CD/DDP creation and multitrack work. If you want to use Sony software for the whole process you will need CD Architect and Vegas too.

Other manufacturers tend to put everything into one piece of software but Sony do things differently and keep the functions separate.

James.

[Jerry Tubb]

Originally Posted by huejahfink

Hmm not sure about that. There's plenty of mastering relevant software and hardware that doesn't burn cd or export ddp.
So Izotope RX doesn't belong in mastering section, because that doesn't burn CDs?
Or a Sontec eq doesn't belong in the mastering section because it's not a lathe?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Ok maybe a "second class" mastering application, as it does stereo processing:

Sound Forge Pro Mac 1.0 Mastering Audio

I see it has a Multi-band & an Exciter ...WooHoo! ; - )

But if it doesn't generate DDPs or burn discs...

JT

Btw, my Sontec says "Mastering" on the front panel.

[huejahfink]

Well we seem to agree that it isn't the one-stop mastering program that it advertises in the blurb, but it could be used as a tool for digital mastering all the same. It wouldn't be my choice, but I expect it could work for some - so not irrelevant.


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[Jerry Tubb]

Originally Posted by huejahfink

but I expect it could work for some - so not irrelevant.

Agreed, I wish them well with it.

JT

[synthoid]

I've been kicking the tires on SF for mac for a few days. I'm a big fan of the PC version. There's so much missing from the mac version that it's almost not recognizable as the same app. I hope that this means simply that it's a work in progress. It's a little surprising to me that they weren't able to make the two versions have a bit more in common than they appear too.

-synthoid

[Melgueil]

Seems to be a work in progress. I never used the Windows version so no reference point - and so no built in disappointment.

Using the demo - like it actually, although it looks rather Spartan. Hey, it's one.dot.zero. Give it time ...

Cdlt

[Liam Judah]

Originally Posted by synthoid

I've been kicking the tires on SF for mac for a few days. I'm a big fan of the PC version. There's so much missing from the mac version that it's almost not recognizable as the same app. I hope that this means simply that it's a work in progress. It's a little surprising to me that they weren't able to make the two versions have a bit more in common than they appear too.

-synthoid

Disappointing. I had really been looking forward to it.

[Rossd25]

I use it mostly to cut up samples on my laptop. I have always been a fan, but to be honest I am so used to mastering in Logic now that I wouldn't want it for my Mac.

[tommcc]

I've used Sound Forge Pro PC for well over a decade for voiceover production. I just downloaded the trial for SF Mac, and like a lot of you I am disappointed. It is really a completely different program than SF Pro PC, and is not at all a cross-platform clone like the way Cubase, Wavelab, or Pro Tools are, for example.

I'm sure Sound Forge Mac has its place in the world - they have obviously gone out of their way to create a program that has a user interface similar to existing Mac sound editing programs like Amadeus, Adobe Audition, and Audacity, so it does compete in that arena (although I have to admit I must wonder WHY they would do that, since Amadeus and Audacity are basically free, and Audition at least used to come bundled with their Creative Suite - so then why would someone pay $250 for SF Mac?). But it seems quite strange to me that they wouldn't have leveraged their incredible competitive advantage that Sound Forge has on the PC side. On the PC, there's really NO OTHER program with the power of Sound Forge (except possibly Wavelab, but remember, we're doing voiceover for multimedia/web, not music - for the few times I need to master music, I do indeed use Wavelab). The feature set on SF Pro PC is SO rich, it's practically insane.

So IMO, they should have called it something other than Sound Forge - maybe "Sound Edit Lite" or something like that. But Sound Forge Pro it ain't.