Wave Editor 2.0 is now called Triumph

[staudio]

Originally Posted by Tarekith

Audiofile Engineering - Support

I'm excited for this. I have Wave Editor 1.5 but I always found the user interface and layer workflow to be confusing. I could work more quickly in Peak, but since Bias is dead I am looking for a new mastering specific Mac DAW. I love Sample Editor for batch processing and I hope they include some of that feature set for easier multiple file type delivery.

[amrz]

Wonder how much is it for old Wave Editor users

[sat159p1]

Originally Posted by amrz

Wonder how much is it for old Wave Editor users

$79,90 if you bought it before May 2012.

[bendermastering]

Looking forward for Triumph!

Waiting for the beta and if everything goes as expected I'll be updating as soon as possible!

Don't mind the price, payed more for having Sonnox plugins at 64bit than for this update, which is obviously a new app with tons of new functions... It's nice for them to have a grace period for people who bought the software recently though!

[DigiGal]

Guess that was the easiest way to get around the fact that there is already a program called Wave Editor available in the Apple App Store.

I was anticipating release of the new version until I found they were requiring Lion or Mountain Lion. I have many reasons that I don't wish to switch from Snow Leopard myself and I doubt I'm alone in this.

[sat159p1]

Originally Posted by DigiGal

Guess that was the easiest way to get around the fact that there is already a program called Wave Editor available in the Apple App Store.

I was anticipating release of the new version until I found they were requiring Lion or Mountain Lion. I have many reasons that I don't wish to switch from Snow Leopard myself and I doubt I'm alone in this.

Went for Lion on my personal MBP - this is the worst of their all op. sys. do date... Still have Snow Leopard in the studio and will not upgrade to Lion ever.

[brethes]

No use to me if it doesn't support Leopard. Disappointing as many studios still use older Mac due to reliability issues.

[bendermastering]

Originally Posted by brethes

No use to me if it doesn't support Leopard. Disappointing as many studios still use older Mac due to reliability issues.

I really disagree/dislike that way of thinking... I want developers to make the best they can and give us new functions/possibilities/overall quality and if that means to have a modern OS than do it...

If you have a old Mac you'll have to upgrade or, if you can't do it, just stick with what you have. If it has work so far, stick with it. If you want new, upgrade!

Making developers work hard on new software that works on old OS is a waste of time and money and, at the end, they won't do as good of a job as they would if they were taking advantage of all the new stuff on modern OS.

Maybe you should be blaming those who create software that makes your new Mac "unreliable", the reason why you can't update and are stuck with old Macs...

[amrz]

Originally Posted by sat159p1

$79,90 if you bought it before May 2012.

Oh yeah, well i don't see it as a bad price. Can't wait to see how it looks like and some new features.

[brethes]

Originally Posted by bendermastering

If you have a old Mac you'll have to upgrade or, if you can't do it, just stick with what you have. If it has work so far, stick with it. If you want new, upgrade!

I am not after new. I need good & reliable tools I can use on a daily basis. I am happy with what I have and was just curious to see what Triumph had to offer as it was supposed to be an improvement over Wave Editor which I own & occasionally use. Won't know as I can't run it, hence the "disappointing" comment as many of my colleagues are also sticking to Leopard for various valid reasons. I respect the developer's choice but should be free to express how I feel without the OSX Lion developer's police barging in!

[Jerry Tubb]

Matthew Foust must be a Triumph motorcycle fan:

Triumph Motorcycles | Triumph Motorcycles

Congrats on the new release.

JT

[24-96 Mastering]

This was a triumph.
I'm making a note here:
HUGE SUCCESS.







Well someone had to do it...

[rekloos]

Originally Posted by bendermastering

I really disagree/dislike that way of thinking... I want developers to make the best they can and give us new functions/possibilities/overall quality and if that means to have a modern OS than do it...

If you have a old Mac you'll have to upgrade or, if you can't do it, just stick with what you have. If it has work so far, stick with it. If you want new, upgrade!

Making developers work hard on new software that works on old OS is a waste of time and money and, at the end, they won't do as good of a job as they would if they were taking advantage of all the new stuff on modern OS.

Maybe you should be blaming those who create software that makes your new Mac "unreliable", the reason why you can't update and are stuck with old Macs...

problem is, a lot of us have been waiting for this update to deal with bugs and missing functions for years. really, like 3 years or something. and as you can see from other comments not everybody wants to be part of the fast race to have the latest because we want stability not candy.
really disappointed in this as I've been a user since first version when it was something like $200. now I'm stuck with this version still buggy and feature missing.

[rboy]

Does Triumph do batch mastering of multiple files using a stored set of plugins and settings? Trying to determine from their info but can't.

Did notice that Sound Forge OSX was finally released. But at Triumph's price if it does that, that's really all I need.

Thanks.

[bendermastering]

Originally Posted by rboy

Does Triumph do batch mastering of multiple files using a stored set of plugins and settings? Trying to determine from their info but can't.

Did notice that Sound Forge OSX was finally released. But at Triumph's price if it does that, that's really all I need.

Thanks.

Looking at the beta I guess it doesn't.

Sample Manager does what you need though!

[Lagerfeldt]

Originally Posted by brethes

No use to me if it doesn't support Leopard. Disappointing as many studios still use older Mac due to reliability issues.

No Snow Leopard support sucks, yes. I'm not migrating to Mountain Lion before someone twists my arm.

[sat159p1]

Originally Posted by Lagerfeldt

No Snow Leopard support sucks, yes. I'm not migrating to Mountain Lion before someone twists my arm.

+1

..but, I think there was a discussion in the other topic about it and it will just have some Lion/ML add-ons like iCloud support and notification center. So maybe those things will be functioning well in newer systems, but the app itself will run on any intel macs... I hope so.

[abcDom]

It's out and 25% off until the 11th. Seems pretty great for $60USD.

[nkf]

Originally Posted by sat159p1

but the app itself will run on any intel macs... I hope so.

No, it doesn't (on SL here)! How silly is that?

[rekloos]

Anybody here bought waveditor before it got cheap? Was it 150 or something? Forgot exactly but I think that's how much I paid.

[antithesist]

I paid $150 as a cross-grade from Peak Pro and waveburner, though it only needed to be for one of those. I think it was selling for $250 at the time, maybe since it came out.

It was at least a year before they brought it down to $79, so I didn't feel too burned. Then, I think I paid $79 for the Studio Life upgrade and another $49 for the Backline DDP player option on sale.

A year or two ago, they used to have a kind of monthly rotating sale where for example, Wave Editor would be $59 and then something else would be discounted the next month.

They also did a funny thing of raising all their prices by 99 cents. That's all from recollection. Dates and prices might not be accurate. I'm going to buy-in, if for nothing else than to hedge my investment.

Edit: Plus, I have a whopping $19 in my paypal account from selling a redundant Waves plug-in. That is like play money to me. Assuming I can pay with PP, that brings it down to $41. Oh, I mean $40.99.

Edit2: I guess the $79 Studio Life upgrade was a nod to people who paid more than the WE price was reduced to. With the DDP player, I was still under what they last charged for the whole thing, even on sale.

[angsty]

I bought Triumph and tried to make use of it, hoping it would be a serviceable and cheaper alternative to DDP Creator & Toast. Basically, it was a spur of the moment purchase when my DDP Creator trial expired and I needed to export one quickly. Unfortunately, it's quite buggy on my 2011 MBP (2.2GHz i7 4GB, both with Lion and Mountain Lion), and produces problematic burns to the point that it's not practical for me to use.

Initially, I reported every hang, trying to be helpful, but it became too time consuming. The developers are very interested in getting detailed information from users to help fix identifiable bugs, and they seem very nice, but helping them out just takes too much time and with the software being basically unusable, it's not practical for me to put aside actual work to help them get to the bottom of things.

As an example, I was having trouble with the program hanging every time I attempted to save rendered audio files. On some projects everything worked fine, on others the program quit mid-save. They were unable to replicate the error and my project files were too big for me to upload for them (I have very slow internet at the office). After a bit of messing about, I narrowed down the issue to having used special characters in the markers that get converted to track names, that get converted to file names. So only projects with special characters in label names had this problem. I reported that (and also stopped using punctuation), and they emailed me back asking me if I could troubleshoot further to narrow down to the offending character(s). I reported enough information that they could very well have taken the initiative to figure that one out for themselves. It's just a matter of taking responsibility.

I have never gotten a good burn out of Triumph, not even after having my optical drive swapped out. To be fair, they claim that consistently-bad burns have only been reported a few times and they aren't able to replicate it in their test machines. That still doesn't help me, and I'm not the only one.

I love the idea of Triumph because I work with field recordings and in theory I could use it to divide those recordings into tracks easily and burn reference discs. I'd gladly pay twice as much for it if it worked well for me. And it might work well for others, but in my experience it was a waste. Between the bad burns, general bugginess, and unintuitive documentation, I just can't use it.

So, from someone who learned the annoying way, make sure you thoroughly test the trial before dropping your dollar on it-- import bounced mixes and listen for differences, run multiple burns and test them on consumer devices, decide whether you have time to ask questions and wait for responses, etc.

I'm back to preparing masters in Toast. :(

[drew]

Originally Posted by angsty

I'm back to preparing masters in Toast. :(

As a Peak owner, you can still get Soundblade LE for half off and there's also DSP Quattro which I think is good. No need to go backwards.