6th July 2012
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#31 | | Lives for gear
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xenon for me is fantastic for what it can do
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7th July 2012
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#32 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2009 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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One thing that I will admit I am guilty of is not auditioning other limiters when I'm mastering. I have Sonnox set as last in my template chain & seems like every time I tried other limiters occasionally the Sonnox beats them out (to my ears). I'm going to make it a point to try others like Voxengo, Flux, others again due to certain songs benefit from different gear/plug-ins. One thing's for sure tho = if Sonnox is all u had u would be fine.
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7th July 2012
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#33 | | Lives for gear
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It's very possible that you simply like the Sonnox plugins sound/behavior more than any other. Sometimes a process just "clicks" with the way we hear things.
I think the Manley Vari-Mu falls into this category as well. Some people adore it (that'd be me) and some people can't stand it's sound/behavior.
This doesn't mean the thing is superior or inferior to other similar processes but simply that it clicks with your own taste.
In the case of Sonnox, I highly recommend sticking to it if it works for you! It's quality is way over the line of high-fidelity meaning it's completely in the subjective sound territory. It can get as loud as any of the other limiters when setup properly so if loudness is your thing, it's definitely not a problem for the Sonnox limiter (we all know loudness is not created by the limiter alone).
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7th July 2012
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#34 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jan 2006 Location: UK
Posts: 1,260
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Originally Posted by Filthrill One thing that I will admit I am guilty of is not auditioning other limiters when I'm mastering. I have Sonnox set as last in my template chain & seems like every time I tried other limiters occasionally the Sonnox beats them out (to my ears). I'm going to make it a point to try others like Voxengo, Flux, others again due to certain songs benefit from different gear/plug-ins. One thing's for sure tho = if Sonnox is all u had u would be fine. | I'm a fan of both Elephant and Xenon, both are excellent limiters for different material. I also occasionally use the Pecision limiter when it works.
I just got my Ilok 2 through the post today, so decided to check out the Sonnox limiter (since I have read and heard great things about it). I must say this limiter is outstanding for what it does. I actually prefer it to the Elephant slightly, and can go loud without sounding like a limiter or any side effects.
Earlier this year I also tried the Ozone 5 and Fab Filter Pro L, and disliked both limiters. The Elephant and Xenon were better for my work and ears. But now the Sonnox is on my purchase list, too bad it's on the expensive side.
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8th July 2012
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#35 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2009 Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 594
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Originally Posted by kingofswing I'm a fan of both Elephant and Xenon, both are excellent limiters for different material. I also occasionally use the Pecision limiter when it works.
I just got my Ilok 2 through the post today, so decided to check out the Sonnox limiter (since I have read and heard great things about it). I must say this limiter is outstanding for what it does. I actually prefer it to the Elephant slightly, and can go loud without sounding like a limiter or any side effects.
Earlier this year I also tried the Ozone 5 and Fab Filter Pro L, and disliked both limiters. The Elephant and Xenon were better for my work and ears. But now the Sonnox is on my purchase list, too bad it's on the expensive side. | Yeah Ozone is great on subgroups or individual tracks. I think it's great somewhere on stereo bus too but I've never liked it's limiter last in the chain either. If I use a bit of it on stereo bus, I always have another limiter after it like Waves L2, L3, or Sonnox. I look at Ozone as a "spice things up slightly" plugin, not a final limiter in chain. I need to try Xenon cuz I really dig PSP's Vintage Warmer. Sonnox is pricey but just think, noone will ever laugh at your limiter again!
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10th July 2012
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#36 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jan 2006 Location: UK
Posts: 1,260
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Originally Posted by Filthrill Sonnox is pricey but just think, noone will ever laugh at your limiter again! | |
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11th July 2012
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#37 | | Gear Head
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 50
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I would recommend trying the Slate Digital FG-X. It's a great leveller and sounds very transparent! I've rambled on about how much I like it in another thread, some users say that it doesn't work very well in the low frequencies but I don't see it. Something to bear in mind.
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12th July 2012
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#38 | | Gear interested
Joined: Apr 2012
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Anyone rate Limiter No6?
by vladg.
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12th July 2012
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#39 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Feb 2006 Location: Milan Verified Member | Quote:
Originally Posted by scomusic Anyone rate Limiter No6?
by vladg. | It's only just out of beta, so it's going to take a while for people to work out how to use it, how to integrate it well into their chain, and then assess it and report back their findings. When you have a couple of options that already work really well (in my case Elephant and Xenon), and you are busy/under deadlines, it's sometimes hard to find the time to test something new. Of course we need to make time, in case it does sound better!
I'd say give it a few more weeks before definitive opinions are aired. My initial testing has been pretty positive, but I still need to spend a lot more time with it. It's a very complex beast!
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23rd July 2012
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#40 | | Gear nut
Joined: Nov 2010 Location: Phuket
Posts: 122
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Originally Posted by Riccardo Which wrapper are you using? | FXpansion VST to RTAS wrapper - for Limiter No6 of course, not FG-X. Whatever the latest version is. It hasn't been updated for about 2 years and won't be any more as far as I know.
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23rd July 2012
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#41 | | Gear nut
Joined: Nov 2010 Location: Phuket
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Originally Posted by scomusic Anyone rate Limiter No6?
by vladg. | Yes I do! You have to be very careful with it, especially the clipper sections (of course!), but I find it very transparent and unless you try and hammer it to silly levels it doesn't seem to destroy any of the dynamics, which is great for preserving the impact of a kick or snare drum.
I have started putting FG-X in front of Limiter no6 with the FGX gain on 0, but the dynamic perception knob up high, to preserve (retain?) as much in the way of dynamic content as I can before going into Limiter no6.
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27th July 2012
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#42 | | Gear interested
Joined: Feb 2010
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FabFilter Pro-L!!!!!
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29th July 2012
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#43 | | Gear addict
Joined: Jan 2009 Location: austria
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alittle bit of vladislav goncharov , a touch of toneboosters barricade and the elefant at final stage did the job for me yesterday. ( and YES , i had to pump it up )
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29th July 2012
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#44 | | Lives for gear
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The one to have (IMHO) if you want absolutely transparent brickwall limiting up to about 3dB GR is the TC Brickwall Limiter.
The only problem is it either exists in the now defunct Powercore Platform or in a TC System 6000 hardware box.
I'll be keeping a compatible rig to run my Powercore 6000 just for this plugin, I simply cannot imagine using anything else, and I've heard virtually every Limiter plugin going.
But then again I'm only using 3dB GR max. beyond that for participation in the loudness wars I imagine there are better mouse traps available but if you want to only limit by a small amount and you want to leave your transients perfectly intact, especially the kick drum then I've yet to hear a better limiter in software than the TC Brickwall Limiter.
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30th July 2012
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#45 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Apr 2008 Location: Sydney Australia
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I find the TC Brickwall pumps if it goes over 1.5dB. Its still my favourite tho. I generally use only .3dB gain reduction these days with a -.3dB output.
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30th July 2012
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#46 | | Gear Head
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 61
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Here's another quote for Fabfilter's Pro L. I almost love it!
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11th August 2012
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#47 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 240
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IZotope ozone 5 or fabfilter pro-L. Pro-L is more versatile, but can get complicated... I should try out the Sonnox plugins though.
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11th August 2012
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#48 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Feb 2009 Location: Recording Studio Brisbane, Australia
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The rave reviews about the sonnox limiter has peaked my interest. I must say that the L2 by Waves is still a mighty workhorse - probably the single most important limiting plugin that has stood the test of time. I'm gonna try the sonnox limiter and see what it brings @ the mixing stage. The powercore MD3 limiting section is amazing but I can't bare to use it and rely on it cos I don't wanna have it go "poof" when powercore finally stops working with OS X updates.
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11th August 2012
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#49 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jun 2005 Location: Asheville NC
Posts: 529
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Flux Elixer is my most used Limiter by far.....
Vary transparent.
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13th August 2012
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#50 | | Gear interested
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 24
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L2
I'm happier with hardware & I get frustrated fiddling with traditional limiter parameters on software. It's a feel thing, & the broadstroke simplicity of L2 keeps me in the zone
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13th August 2012
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#51 | | Gear interested
Joined: Apr 2012
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I Love the UAD Precision Limiter, sound verry transparent even if you overdo it, it wil destort ofcourse but compared with other limiters the Precision Limiter sound best.
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13th August 2012
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#52 | | Gear Head
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 43
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Fabfilter Pro L vote here.
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13th August 2012
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#53 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jun 2010 Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 286
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Originally Posted by AngeFragile Fabfilter Pro L vote here. | +1
Pro-L is my go to limiter as it is very flexible, easy to use and can be really transparent. Also the presets done well as I find they offer a good starting point for further tweaking.
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16th August 2012
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#54 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jan 2006 Location: Osijek
Posts: 204
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No more limiters for me...i decide to use only Track clipper after compressor at the end of chain..more trasparent,better stereo image,less distortion...same or better rms..
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16th August 2012
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#55 | | Gear nut
Joined: Nov 2011 Location: Brooklyn |
been using the fabfilter pro L and am totally satisfied. easy to use, does its job, and pretty transparent as well.
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16th August 2012
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#56 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jul 2011 Location: Western Massachusetts
Posts: 171
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A friend of mine recently turned me on to ToneBoosters' TB Barricade, and that's now got a permanent spot in my template. Keeps the stereo image nice.
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17th August 2012
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#57 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2009 Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 594
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Originally Posted by Splico No more limiters for me...i decide to use only Track clipper after compressor at the end of chain..more trasparent,better stereo image,less distortion...same or better rms.. | Are u talking about T-Racks Clipper? If so, wow that's bold. It pretty much does what a limiter does anyway, right? Clips the audio. Interested in trying this.
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17th August 2012
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#58 | | Lives for gear
Joined: May 2009 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Brand new question for everybody.
So I load in a lot of songs from major artists into my mastering sessions on a Pro Tools audio track to get a look at stuff like how much limiting (or clipping) some of the songs have along w/ being able to hear theirs compared to mine. One thing I'm noticing on most of these newer songs is that the track meters peak into the "red". A lot of them not just occasion peaking, altho some are, but are peaking constantly. Even when I set the ceiling to almost the highest on my Sonnox limiter I still cannot reproduce that type of constant peaking. Maybe it's not possible w/ a limiter? ((But I love my limiters!!)) So I have to ask u guys:
What are u setting your output ceiling at on your final limiter? I'm talking mainly mastering but interesting in hearing mixing settings too.
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17th August 2012
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#59 | | Gear Head
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 33
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I'd like to contribute by recommending Pro Audio Dynamic Spectrum Mapper as a limiter. Took me two months of trying almost all the top limiters out there, including Sonnox, which was good. But Pro Audio DSP is next level, developed by Paul Ryder and Paul Frindle, and for all those Sonnox fans, check these guys biography!
Also to the post above, I have managed to reach the same loudness as many loud major records with DSP. Give it a try, see what you think.
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17th August 2012
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#60 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 537
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Originally Posted by AcoosticZoo | Picqued
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