"Limiter No.6"

[Table Of Tone]

Originally Posted by sat159p1

Sorry for being offtopic, Ade, are you the man behind Orange Amplifiers brand???

Only the all tube stuff.

[rksguit]

Not bad GUI's @Table of Tone,but what do you think of the plugin itself?

RK

[Table Of Tone]

Not a big user of plugs myself but I do think this is very good at the things it does.

[Blast9]

Originally Posted by Table Of Tone

Did a Psyc GUI just for fun

Here's some screenshots

Ade - I like the psychedelic one!

[Blast9]

PS

"very slow attack" RMS comp

does anyone know what the attack/release times are on the comp section?

0.06 seconds to 2 seconds?

[vladg]

Originally Posted by Blast9

PS

"very slow attack" RMS comp

does anyone know what the attack/release times are on the comp section?

0.06 seconds to 2 seconds?

Attack: 0.05 s to 2 s (50 ms to 2000 ms)
Release: 0.06 s to 2 s (60 ms to 2000 ms)

[Blast9]

Brilliant - thanks Vladislav. This is a great tool!

I like Molot too

thanks for the comprehensive notes/user guide

[inlinenl]

Installed easy/great on Xp ... I'll get back to you after 3 months of use ...

would be nice if the selections on a few switches were illuminated ... so you can see wich selections are made ..

[Blast9]

Originally Posted by inlinenl

I'll get back to you after 3 months of use ...

LOL - you should *just about* be scatching the surface by then! Very flexible indeed!

vladg - are the freq bandwidths in multiband mode fixed?

[vladg]

Originally Posted by Blast9

vladg - are the freq bandwidths in multiband mode fixed?

Yes, but I have plans to add ability to change them in the next version.

FYI, the crossover values now (in the current version) are 162 Hz and 6410 Hz, the filter is 6 dB/Oct, gain difference for bands is calibrated by pink noise.

[Table Of Tone]

I'm finding the ISP Protect feature very useful for the "Mastered For iTunes" thing.
If you just put it in, turn eveything else off, set it to precise and don't bring the ceiling down on the plug (bring down a further 0.3dB on WL6 instead) you can greatly reduce the clip incidents on a resulting AAC with very little change to the transients of a medium/loud rock master.

We're talking no more than 10 clip incidents per track on an iTunes Plus AAC, which I challenge anyone on the planet to be able to hear

Great work Vlad G

[groundbass]

This is really great. I have only used it quickly on a track, and in a hurry I 'mixed through' it, but I was able to get 'commercial' loudness levels fairly easily - modifying a preset!

Normally I really struggle with the last percentage, but with a final A/B I can match levels, without any bloatedness that normally comes with the final push. Any other plug in I have tried, I have to cringe as the last squeeze matches levels, but at a cost.

I'm not going to get into home mastering anytime soon, but I finally have confidence now when doing demo's. Its going to be a few months yet to get fully confident driving this thing, but what an amazing start. Maybe then i'll start fussing about little things, but for now I need no other plug in for finals.

I wish you every success with this.

[Table Of Tone]

Originally Posted by Weiss

Sonic Soundblade doesn't load it... any idea why??? i want to try it!!!

It does work on sB.

What OS you running?

[Weiss]

Yep, i am running/testing now, it sounds really transparent and powerful, i need to use a bit more to contrast with other plugs and gear.

Good job.

PS, it is a Max/MSP based plug???

[vladg]

Originally Posted by Weiss

PS, it is a Max/MSP based plug???

No.

[Babaluma]

Sounding great here, thanks for this!

[Philw]

Vlad,

first, many thanx to give this great tool !

I'm currently testing it on two computers, i7/Win7 64b at the studio, working fine.
The second computer is an old P4 (C series, HT)/XP Pro SP3 I use on the road, for live mixing for a rock band.
I noticed one strange thing : if the plug is closed but in action on the track, the CPU is very low, like in the studio computer. But if I open the GUI, CPU is glued @100%, but sound stays clean and there's no crack or glitch.
It seems not really a problem, it's just strange.

cheers
Phil

[vladg]

Originally Posted by Philw

The second computer is an old P4 (C series, HT)/XP Pro SP3 I use on the road, for live mixing for a rock band.
I noticed one strange thing : if the plug is closed but in action on the track, the CPU is very low, like in the studio computer. But if I open the GUI, CPU is glued @100%, but sound stays clean and there's no crack or glitch.

I think it works fine (no glitches) for you because of HT in your P4. There was complains about problems with GUI and I think they have old CPU and no HT in it,
so the plugin can't process the sound and draw animations at the same time. (In fact, hyper-threading helps for multitasking a lot). Check this review for example:

KVR: Limiter No6 by vladg/sound - Reviews

I have old P4 notebook with XP SP3. I'll try to reproduce it.

Check also GUI-2 version for your notebook. Some people told that they have problems with GUI-1 but it was okay for GUI-2.

[Slug1]

Gotta try this puppy. It looks amazing. I'm mastering mostly hiphop. I just added a bax and hilo to my rig, but need to get a pair of femaleXLR to 1/4 inch to run from Hilo line out to SPL 2381 controller. Also adding a new macbook pro. So now is a good time to experiment with some new software limiters. This will be first on the block for brick wall work.

[rksguit]

Limiter6 is very good,but being a bit of a noob at mastering,I'm having trouble getting the volume I wan't without nasty distortions,so I went and bought Waves LL3,and do like it if used lightly,and am getting the volume I want now.

I'm super glad Limiter6 is there for when I get better at this[hopefully!]

RK

[Philw]

Originally Posted by vladg

I think it works fine (no glitches) for you because of HT in your P4. There was complains about problems with GUI and I think they have old CPU and no HT in it,
so the plugin can't process the sound and draw animations at the same time. (In fact, hyper-threading helps for multitasking a lot). Check this review for example:

KVR: Limiter No6 by vladg/sound - Reviews

I have old P4 notebook with XP SP3. I'll try to reproduce it.

Check also GUI-2 version for your notebook. Some people told that they have problems with GUI-1 but it was okay for GUI-2.

thanx Vlad, I will try GUI-2 next week-end.
Little request about GUI : it would be great if you could add a "open/close" button for each section, for example, if I want to use only Peak Lim and Clipper, closing the others sections will save space on the screen.

Anyway I remember I have done test starting XP with no HT (boot.ini tweak), and the result was the same. I will test again, and I will be happy to know your test too (with or without HT).

cheers
Phil

[Chris Lago]

I'm using GUI 1 right now, anyway this plugin is amazing... Why is it free?!?! Possibly the best Master limiter plugin I've used.

[vladg]

Originally Posted by Chris Lago

... Why is it free?!?! ...

Sounds like "I can feed an ambush but I don't understand where" :-)

Well, it's a kind of philosophical question. This plugin doesn't offer any technical know-hows like commercial plugins does (except few tricks in fast peak limiter to reduce distortions and also maybe true peak limiter in ISP module). Also this plugin doesn't offer you dithering and K-metering, which also can be found in commercial mastering plugins. The GUI is pretty simple (no resizing, context help, smooth parameters transitions, MIDI learn, advanced preset management and so on). The sound engine is pretty primitive and it has no "complex detection to analyze oncoming transients" or things to make sound "transparent" and also it is not CPU friendly. So technically I can offer it for $10-$15 but not interested in this now.

On the other hand, a lot of people use clipping (IMHO) not only due to loudness war but because it is very primitive way of limiting signal with very predictive results. Thus this plugin is not cheap recreation of some famous mastering plugin but a try to achieve the sound between simple clipper and straight "trickless" brickwall limiter. And finally we have fast peak limiter with RMS compressor as helper (to avoid constant limiting) and also clipper with such helpers as HF limiter (to avoid harshness) and ISP limiter (to avoid ISP peaks after clipping).

From my side of view it was very unexpected that true mastering engineers will find this plugin helpful. But anyway it's good idea to look at this plugin as "limiting toolbox" and to use modules of it as parts of your mastering chain.

[whiteaxxxe]

Originally Posted by Riccardo

Can you imagine how great the Beatles or Pink Floyd could have sounded if they had used better cables?.

[whiteaxxxe]

Originally Posted by Table Of Tone

I've made a sonic style blue GUI for the release version of Vlad's plug.
Also modded Vlad's background to match the language boxes.
Did a Psyc GUI just for fun

Here's some screenshots

sorry ... but how do I get another GUI in limiter no6 to show up? not that this would be important ...

[ksound]

Originally Posted by Chris Lago

I'm using GUI 1 right now, anyway this plugin is amazing... Why is it free?!?! Possibly the best Master limiter plugin I've used.

ditto

Superb plugin.

[Chris Lago]

I'll be using it all over my album, it gels the tracks way more.

[wakestyle]

Nice, but please, can you add preset for clean guitar and dirty guitar?

thanks!

[JohnnyReverb]

Originally Posted by wakestyle

Nice, but please, can you add preset for clean guitar and dirty guitar?

thanks!

[vladg]

Originally Posted by vladg

Yes, of course! As also for AU sooner or later.

BTW, new version (v1.0.2) with AU support was released:

Molot 0.3.1 and Limiter ?6 1.0.2 with AU support were released


I want to provide here some technical details about changes of peak-limiter in new version.

First, stereo-linked mode in peak-limiter of the old version didn't work at all. It was just stupid bug actually, but instead of quick fixing it the stereo-linked mode was redesigned. Besides the correct operation of stereo-linked mode, the peak-limiter in new version uses additional slow detector (only when stereo-linked mode is on). Due to this, peak-limiter can be pushed harder and provide less distortions on occasional "big peaks".

Next, modes I-III of peak limiter were slightly changed. For me, the difference is very subtle but people say they also have decreased amount of distortions.

So I hope, you find updated version useful.