30th May 2012
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#1 | | Gear addict
Joined: Nov 2006 Location: HI Ambacht, the Netherlands Thread Starter Verified Member  | Barry Porter NetEQ
I had to show it here as well.
OK, it's done and it sounds GREAT and is deadquiet.
It's done with stepped swithes, all done by hand. Quit a lot of work but totally worth it.
The boards are both hanging on the sides so that i can work on it from the bottom and top without removing the boards.
Panel was done by Schaeffer. Not really cheap but i wanted it in blue which turned out even better then i expected.
I'm really happy with how it turned out. Now it's time to use it in practice. 8)
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30th May 2012
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#2 | | Lives for gear
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Really lovely!
Who made the boards?
Great work.........
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30th May 2012
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#3 | | Lives for gear
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How do the Ne5532's sound in this EQ?
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#4 | | Lives for gear
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Beautiful.
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#5 | | Gear addict
Joined: May 2009 Location: Madrid, Spain
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wow! Congrats man, it looks really cool!!!
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#6 | | Lives for gear
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nice !
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#7 | | Lives for gear
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Better than a Sontec for 1/10 the price.
DC
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30th May 2012
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#8 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Jun 2007 Location: Marseille - FRANCE |
Good work  | |
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30th May 2012
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#9 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Verified Member | Quote:
Originally Posted by dcollins  Better than a Sontec for 1/10 the price.
DC | A 1/10th of the price? A Sontec MES-482 is $11,800. That is brand new and built by Sontec.
Who's building Barry Porter NetEQ's for $1,180?
Please let me know so I can buy one.
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31st May 2012
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#10 | | Lives for gear
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It looks fantastic!
Alistair
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#11 | | Lives for gear
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Nicely done!
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#12 | | Lives for gear
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Very nice. There is a lot of work in those stepped pots! How many days did it take to build?
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31st May 2012
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#13 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Mar 2003 Location: Los Angeles
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Originally Posted by nomatic Really lovely!
Who made the boards?
Great work......... | The PCB layout is Porter's original for which gerbers were circulating for years. I wanted to build one for myself and the Frank Lacy boards were no longer available so I pestered a well known board maker called Gustav over on GroupDIY to do a run. It was risky because the board was untested but AFAIK Dagoose is the first person to complete one and everything seems to work well.
My boards are still in their vacuum pack I'm sorry to say....way too busy.
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31st May 2012
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#14 | | Lives for gear
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Wow, that didn't take long, the PMs are coming in already. A few points -
- I don't sell these board, they are available from Gustav on the White Market over at GroupDIY. You may need to sign up to see this link PCBS: (NetEQ, Ez760, GssL, G9, 500 series projects, PeQ, La4, G7 etc.). 3 for 2.
- This is not a beginners project so if you haven't built some gear before it's not a good starter project. There is no PSU circuit included so you'll need to know what you're doing in that department too.
- Gustav provides no support for this project and the boards are sold as is, they may contain flaws, there is no guarantee and no money back. This was all made very clear when Gustav made the boards, Porter's gerber files were used as is and unchecked.
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31st May 2012
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#15 | | u don't wanna know
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Very sweet...
BTW: I also love your " Modified Rancilio Silvia espresso machine"  
Are the espressos included? 
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#16 | | Gear addict
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@DaGoose: where did you get those knobs....?
They look very nice and seem to have a good feel to them.... 
Best,
Gregor
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31st May 2012
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#17 | | Gear addict
Joined: Aug 2011 Location: London Verified Member |
Looks great, you are a skilled builder. Something so nice about stepped switches. For us MEs it's like opening a box of your favourite sweets as a kid... 'look at all the colours'.
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31st May 2012
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#18 | | Lives for gear
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well done da Goose a fat 10++ on your work.
0.5 dB steps all the way up & down .. or smaller ???
do you take orders ;-)
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31st May 2012
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#19 | | Lives for gear
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Congrats on the finished build, looking stellar! What are the frequency points? none of the pictures show the front panel clear enough to see them.
Also are the high & low bands switchable between shelf & bell? More to the point how do you find it compares sonically to your Sontec 250 clone? do you have a favourite?
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31st May 2012
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#20 | | Lives for gear
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Bootiful, as they say round here. Quote:
Originally Posted by SASMastering Ninja... ...silkscreen. | Unless me old eyes deceive me, Barry, it's better than that - looks like the full engrave job from here.
Congrats da goose, may it give long and happy service.
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31st May 2012
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#21 | | Gear addict
Joined: Nov 2006 Location: HI Ambacht, the Netherlands Thread Starter Verified Member |
wow! thanks for all the nice comments I Didn't expect to get so much love for the machine the way i did it. I hope Barry Porter is proud and smiling at me.
OK, some reactions/info.
Frontpanel is done on 4mm thick adonized aluminium, engraved by Schaeffer. (over 200 euro for those wanting to know)
Knobs are from musikding.de
It has 0.5db per step up and down, max boost and cut is 5.5db which i think is enough but it's easy to set it, i think + and - 12db if you want to.
It has both low and hi-shelf switches (the blue pushbuttons near the q of low and hi-band) so that it can be used as peak and shelf on the hi and low band.
The boards are indeed done by gustav from the original gerbers from Barry Porter.
There is a BOM circuling around but it's not correct and i didn't make a BOM myself so i'm afraid i can't help with that.
Compared to my sontec first impression is that the netEQ is more transparant but i just have it done and so i'm still have to really find out what it does in practice. So far i love it!
Orders? hmm..
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31st May 2012
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#22 | | Gear addict
Joined: Nov 2006 Location: HI Ambacht, the Netherlands Thread Starter Verified Member | Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben F Very nice. There is a lot of work in those stepped pots! How many days did it take to build? | Don't know exactly how many hours it took... don't really want to know.  I did check the clock once when i was doing one of the latest switches for freq selection (2 decks) It took me 1 hour and 15 minutes to finish that switch and that was after having a routine because i did a lot already.
Wiring, testing, finetuning the swithes etc took a lot of time as well.
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1st June 2012
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#23 | | Gear addict
Joined: Nov 2006 Location: HI Ambacht, the Netherlands Thread Starter Verified Member |
I get quite a lot of PM's about this EQ and mostly about the frontpanel.
I had it done at Schaeffer and was over 200 euro and did the design myself which took quite some time and that is why right now i won't be giving it away.
Peter @ http://www.grandmasteraudio.com could maybe help you out. He designed and engraved my sontec clone panel ( Da Goose Music - Mastering and Sound Engineering - Ultimate Eq) and he's a great guy to deal with!
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2nd June 2012
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#24 | | Gear interested
Joined: Sep 2010
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Here for the freq. points. Another design inspired by Barry Porter and the Greg Reierson own Porter/Lacy.
As before... to much work to give away.
Feel free to be inspired.
Best
Wladi
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2nd June 2012
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#25 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jul 2007
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Jeffrey!
Stellar work!
Hey, I know what you mean about the panels... Those are a lot more work than people realize... Especially the scale markings.
Keep up the good work,
Roger
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6th June 2012
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#26 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Oct 2011
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Originally Posted by aleatoric A 1/10th of the price? A Sontec MES-482 is $11,800. That is brand new and built by Sontec.
Who's building Barry Porter NetEQ's for $1,180?
Please let me know so I can buy one. | I'll take one as well...
The man hours alone would add up...
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7th June 2012
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#27 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Nov 2003
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Looks amazing Jeffrey! looks like the same housing I bought for my Hypex amps. far more work than I anticipated....
If I ever tell you, I will build something like your EQ's please stop me, it would kill me :-)
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7th June 2012
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#28 | | Gear addict
Joined: Nov 2006 Location: HI Ambacht, the Netherlands Thread Starter Verified Member | Quote:
Originally Posted by Zownd Looks amazing Jeffrey! looks like the same housing I bought for my Hypex amps. far more work than I anticipated....
If I ever tell you, I will build something like your EQ's please stop me, it would kill me :-) | Don't worry.. if this is going to be the case i will simply come on over to Leiderdorp and take your soldering-iron and opamps with me and hit you with a stick.  | |
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8th June 2012
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#29 | | Gear Head
Joined: May 2012 Location: Rome
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it is a nice, solid work.
I wish I would have the skill and patience to make it myself
Would you describe it more as a GML-ish or Sontec-ish behaviour?
What about the phase-shift transient softening?
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2nd August 2012
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#30 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Aug 2005 Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 1,316
Verified Member | New Barry Porter
I've got Joe Malone from JLM Audio building a Barry Porter mastering EQ for me at the moment. It's based on the Frank Lacy PCB's and will have 4 peak/dip bands and 2 hi/lo shelf bands per channel. 72 frequency choices which I've carefully selected to match musical notes. 3RU chassis with elma knobs and custom black faceplate which may look a little 'Sontec'ish'... I like black rack gear with big knobs.
There will be some other mods under the hood as well which I'm keeping under wraps. I'll start a new thread once I have the prototype sitting in front of me.
Will hopefully be ready in time for the grand opening of the new Northward mastering room.
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