3rd May 2012
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#31 | | Lives for gear
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Originally Posted by Jerry Tubb Still diggin' my monitoring path:
Benchmark DAC1 - sounds transparent, flexible outputs | Glad you're still happy with the Benchmark, Jerry. I think mine (one for speakers, one for headphones) have been a good investment and at the moment I see no need to change. One of them doesn't do 192, but that's not a practical impediment.
I'm liking the Goldpoint as a possible move: there are Goldpoints in the Foote compressor which have a nice feel to them and work well.
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3rd May 2012
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#32 | | Gear addict
Joined: Sep 2010 Location: Oakland Verified Member |
Tyler Acoustic D1's
Hypex UcD400HG+HxR Monoblock's
Benchmark DAC1
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3rd May 2012
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#33 | | Gear addict
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Originally Posted by ORC Sure, the ML-10's use a tannoy sgm 10, or srm 10 driver. The cabinet is custom built by Manley. It weighs in at a hefty 55 lbs without the driver installed. The crossover is designed by The Mastering Lab (Doug Sax), optimzed and buit by Manley. They are amazingly accurate monitors, with a detail and soundscape that is in a word, astonishing. The Ml10's are 3 db down at about 50hz, so you'll want to use a sub, or pair of subs. With a pair of good subs, you'll have a system that will fill a good sized mastering facility with plenty of sound. The last time i spoke with Evanna Manley, she was charging $4k for a pair. The price has probably gone up since then. Keep in mind you will need a great amp, or amps, and a pair of great subs too, so this will be a substantial investment. I've tried lots of monitors for mastering: B&W, Dynaudio, Duntech, Focal, Triangle acoustics, Ariel, KEF, Theile, Tannoy...... and I've never been happier than with my ml-10 setup. Hope this helps. | Interesting, so you can buy a pair from Manley ?
Would you also recommend them for mixing purpose (without subs) for electronic music ?
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#34 | | Gear addict
Joined: Jun 2007 Location: Houston, TX
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Originally Posted by San01 Interesting, so you can buy a pair from Manley ? |
I'm pretty sure that you have to provide the drivers. (No, I'm not kidding.)
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4th May 2012
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#35 | | Lives for gear
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question on the Manley's- two way for mastering?
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4th May 2012
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#36 | | Gear maniac
Joined: Aug 2011 Location: Los Angeles
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Ol' Reliable:
PMC Ib1's with the PMC Bryston 4b SST
if it ain't broke don't fix it
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4th May 2012
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#37 | | Gear addict
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I'm a Focal guy, I like the sound of these speakers.
The SM9 is a great speaker for mastering (and everything else) but if I could choose a pair of speakers no matter the price it would be the Grand Utopia. I'm jealous of the mastering studios who have them...
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4th May 2012
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#38 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Nov 2006 Location: Seattle
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Mostly Wilson Audio and now EA MM3's
Pass XA-160.5 amps
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5th May 2012
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#39 | | Gear addict
Joined: Nov 2009 Location: Omaha, Nebraska USA
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Originally Posted by dietrich10 question on the Manley's- two way for mastering? | Yes, they are perfect for mastering. I don't think Doug Sax would have had his techs design the custom crossovers, Unless he thought the SGM/SRM 10 was an exceptional speaker. All I can say is: listen to them once, and you will understand. I run mine in a 3 way setup with a pair of subs for mastering. Without the subs, they are still outstanding for mixing, and just a sheer joy to listen to. When I first got mine, I was floored by how detailed they sounded. One of those rare speakers that is exceptionally accurate, revealing, and just a blast to listen to. They actually make my job more fun!
These are VERY different from your average Tannoy speaker. Something about the driver, the custom cabs, and the amazing crossover all combined together is just magical. In the sweet spot, which is rather large, its as if the speakers aren't even there, just the music. Love 'em!
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6th May 2012
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#40 | | GS Member No. 251
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6th May 2012
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#41 | | Gear nut
Joined: Nov 2006 Location: NYC
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Dunlavy SC-lV/A with Bryston 4BST. The second set are Lipinksi, in Studio A
In the future Studio B (under construction) Dunlavy SC-lll, 4BST, Velodyne Sub.
Clearly, I love Dunlavy's.
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6th May 2012
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#42 | | Gear addict
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IB2 with bryston amps, meaby i will add a pair of subs in the near future, but rightnow i am happy with it.
My converter is a Mytek 8x192, i use for monitoring, tape to/from and analog loop.
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6th May 2012
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#43 | | Gear maniac
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 157
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Originally Posted by ORC Yes, they are perfect for mastering. I don't think Doug Sax would have had his techs design the custom crossovers, Unless he thought the SGM/SRM 10 was an exceptional speaker. All I can say is: listen to them once, and you will understand. I run mine in a 3 way setup with a pair of subs for mastering. Without the subs, they are still outstanding for mixing, and just a sheer joy to listen to. When I first got mine, I was floored by how detailed they sounded. One of those rare speakers that is exceptionally accurate, revealing, and just a blast to listen to. They actually make my job more fun!
These are VERY different from your average Tannoy speaker. Something about the driver, the custom cabs, and the amazing crossover all combined together is just magical. In the sweet spot, which is rather large, its as if the speakers aren't even there, just the music. Love 'em! | we are ML-10 here too, Al Schmitt uses em too (well actually TML ML-10, the Manley box is slightly different, both have the same internal volume, I believe 35 liters, as the original Tannoy box, speaking personally with Al about em once, his preference is for the original TML box, claiming better bass, its possible the Manley box is slightly less resonant due to different internal bracing, perhaps Evanna will jump in here to confirm) but x/o and driver same
note to anyone considering, the drivers you buy are now 20 years old and should require re-coning, don't know if Manley includes this in the price when you send for install, but OEM Tannoy components still available.
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6th May 2012
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#44 | | Gear maniac
Joined: May 2005
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Originally Posted by bendermastering I'm a Focal guy, I like the sound of these speakers.
The SM9 is a great speaker for mastering (and everything else) but if I could choose a pair of speakers no matter the price it would be the Grand Utopia. I'm jealous of the mastering studios who have them... | I reaaaaally like the Focals, they may get on the want list
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6th May 2012
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#45 | | Gear interested
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Klein & Hummel O410 + O870 sub; Mytek DSD DAC 192.
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8th May 2012
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#46 | | GS Member No. 251
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Interesting, interesting
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8th May 2012
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#47 | | Gear maniac
Joined: May 2008 Location: London, UK
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Originally Posted by shmasterer I reaaaaally like the Focals, they may get on the want list
_sh | Get yourself a demo of the SM9s asap! |
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8th May 2012
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#48 | | PC Moderator
Joined: Mar 2005 Location: Winterthur, Switzerland Verified Member | Quote:
Originally Posted by garryrobson Get yourself a demo of the SM9s asap!  | No offense, but the Focals sm9 are not mastering speakers.
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8th May 2012
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#49 | | Lives for gear
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Very happy with the myro whisky and the audionet amp I V2:
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8th May 2012
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#50 | | Gear addict
Joined: Jun 2010 Location: Europe
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Originally Posted by George Necola No offense, but the Focals sm9 are not mastering speakers.
Gesendet von meinem GT-I9100 mit Tapatalk | No offense taken but following your thoughts there are literally no mastering speakers in the world!
People just use whatever sounds good to them, most of the times it's hi-fi speakers they use and like, as you can see by this thread.
I see no point in your comment...
(Yes, I just bought a pair of SM9 for mastering)
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8th May 2012
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#51 | | Gear addict
Joined: Apr 2009 Location: Washington, DC
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I am using the Focal CMS 65's and some times I double check the low frequencies on the HS 80M's and EAW FR153e. Razik Mastering |
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8th May 2012
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#52 | | Gear nut
Joined: Feb 2009 Location: London
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Originally Posted by bendermastering No offense taken but following your thoughts there are literally no mastering speakers in the world!
People just use whatever sounds good to them, most of the times it's hi-fi speakers they use and like, as you can see by this thread.
I see no point in your comment...
(Yes, I just bought a pair of SM9 for mastering) | Hi Bender Mastering, I'm interested in hearing your opinions on them once you've had a chance to do a few albums. From what I've heard so far they are definitely on my short list. I think you're one of the first to actually own a pair though and by extension of that had a proper "go" on them.
By the way feel free to PM me if you don't think this thread is the place for that.
Cheers
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8th May 2012
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#53 | | Gear addict
Joined: Jun 2010 Location: Europe
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Originally Posted by Neil Pickles Hi Bender Mastering, I'm interested in hearing your opinions on them once you've had a chance to do a few albums. From what I've heard so far they are definitely on my short list. I think you're one of the first to actually own a pair though and by extension of that had a proper "go" on them.
By the way feel free to PM me if you don't think this thread is the place for that.
Cheers | They haven't arrived yet, though they should arrive in the next couple weeks. I've had the chance to demo them a couple of times though but I'll share my impressions when they arrive.
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8th May 2012
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#54 | | PC Moderator
Joined: Mar 2005 Location: Winterthur, Switzerland Verified Member | Quote:
Originally Posted by bendermastering They haven't arrived yet, though they should arrive in the next couple weeks. I've had the chance to demo them a couple of times though but I'll share my impressions when they arrive. | Easy. I heard them once and while you can argue about the quality of speakers, they sound far from a mastering grade "hear the truth" speaker.
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8th May 2012
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#55 | | Gear Head
Joined: Jul 2006
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SLS PS8R with a pair of Bag End Infra-Sub 18-Pro's. Made in the Ozarks! SLS Audio PS8R Powered Studio Monitor
The resolution and detail are astonishing.
I don't hear the monitors, I just hear the music.
Maybe someday I'll have a pair of the SLS S1266's.
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9th May 2012
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#56 | | Gear addict
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Originally Posted by George Necola Easy. I heard them once and while you can argue about the quality of speakers, they sound far from a mastering grade "hear the truth" speaker.
Gesendet von meinem GT-I9100 mit Tapatalk | I'm just wondering, where would you put the Adam A7X's as compared to a set of mastering speakers? What is it you personally use or have used? So far, the only speakers I've had extensive studio work with are older Genelecs, Adam A7X's, and the Yamaha HS50's (which I don't like at all). I'm interested in where you feel the A7X's stand.
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9th May 2012
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#57 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Jan 2007 Location: Minneapolis
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Originally Posted by Bob Weston I don't hear the monitors, I just hear the music. | The sign of a good monitor.
GR
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9th May 2012
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#58 | | Gear addict
Joined: Jun 2010 Location: Europe
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Originally Posted by George Necola Easy. I heard them once and while you can argue about the quality of speakers, they sound far from a mastering grade "hear the truth" speaker.
Gesendet von meinem GT-I9100 mit Tapatalk | You're definitely entitled to your opinion and no point in arguing with it.
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9th May 2012
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#59 | | Gear nut
Joined: Feb 2009 Location: London
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Originally Posted by bendermastering You're definitely entitled to your opinion and no point in arguing with it. | and I'm still very much interested in yours once you've had a chance to get to know your new speakers, please let me know how you get on.
Cheers
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9th May 2012
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#60 | | Lives for gear
Joined: Oct 2008 Location: Espoo Finland
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Originally Posted by noodle650 pmc ib2s | Same here, beefed up by Genelec 7071A sub. NAD208 amp for the PMCs, control with Avocet.
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