Attack and release times

pingu · 14th May 2006

Hi guys.

I know its all about what you hear, or do i.

But i thought it might be worth while to talk about your compressor attack and release times.

With attack i normally dont go under 50 ms but thats not written in stone.

Release is normally always above 200 ms unless im looking for an effect.

bob katz · 14th May 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by pingu

Hi guys.

I know its all about what you hear, or do i.

But i thought it might be worth while to talk about your compressor attack and release times.

With attack i normally dont go under 50 ms but thats not written in stone.

Release is normally always above 200 ms unless im looking for an effect.

My gosh. Start by talking about the model of the compressor, the type of material you are mastering, and the goals you are going for (e.g. "aggressive", "manipulative", "punchy", or "just gentle gain riding"). I think it would be easier to listen to musical "before/after" examples and make more sense than to talk about this topic.

pingu · 14th May 2006

Fair enough Bob

My bad.

dcollins · 15th May 2006

30ms Attack
100ms Release
2:1 ratio

1dB GR

Your Welcome,

DC

pingu · 15th May 2006

The golden ratio from DC, im honoured.

Cheers DC

dcollins · 15th May 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by pingu

The golden ratio from DC, im honoured.

Oh, you want the Golden Ratio?

62ms Attack
162ms Release
1.618 Ratio
0.618dB GR

DC

pingu · 15th May 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcollins

Oh, you want the Golden Ratio?

62ms Attack
162ms Release
1.618 Ratio
0.618dB GR

DC

Shouldnt you be at comedy central presents?

Darius van H · 15th May 2006

With some material like hiphop you might want a pretty fast release that lets go of the music in time with the beat - between the kick and snare.......that's if you're going for a more aggresive type of sound

I never really think about attack and release times in terms of numbers - it's so dependant on the model of comp, input level, the knee etc - best just to yank the knobs 'till it feels good.

Jolle_Cobra · 15th May 2006

Would love to hear some sound-examples of the difference between the orginal sound and the mastered sound.

Specially a hiphop track. Wanna know how much you can do with mastering.

overdose · 15th May 2006

I would love to hear how my music sounds pro mastered. I have never had one of my songs mastered.

strauss · 15th May 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jolle_Cobra

.. Wanna know how much you can do with mastering.

That would depend how much you can do with mixing

Jolle_Cobra · 15th May 2006

Well, i'm not a good mixer, so it will proberbly do results with mastering.

But it would be nice to hear some example, Before and After. Take "overdose"'s track, someone, and master it and let us hear the result!

Mike Bruce · 15th May 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcollins

Oh, you want the Golden Ratio?

62ms Attack
162ms Release
1.618 Ratio
0.618dB GR

DC

Those of us at the Fibonacci School of Mastering greatly appreciate the public support for the ONE true correct setting of a compressor.

Really, I just about pee'd myself when I read that one!
Mike Bruce

Jolle_Cobra · 15th May 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Bruce

Those of us at the Fibonacci School of Mastering greatly appreciate the public support for the ONE true correct setting of a compressor.

Really, I just about pee'd myself when I read that one!
Mike Bruce

On friday the secret will be shown at the cinema. I didn't knew that the Da Vinci-code was about the mystery of the art of Mastering though ..

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bob katz · 16th May 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcollins

30ms Attack
100ms Release
2:1 ratio

1dB GR

Your Welcome,

DC

Where did you set the knee? The Overeasy? And how did it affect the trumpets? I always want to know how you set the ratio on the trumpets!

Bang · 16th May 2006

here is a mastered track:

www.blacklinerock.com/music/3.Run.mp3

compressor:RMS 755 VCA type compressor
attack: 10ms
release: .6ms
ratio: 1.5:1
gain reduction: 1.5db on peaks
mood: sleepy
likes: long walks on the beach
dislikes: people who don't listen
favorite food: pizza

got a bit off track there but hope it gives you an idea

Jolle_Cobra · 16th May 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bang

here is a mastered track:

www.blacklinerock.com/music/3.Run.mp3

compressor:RMS 755 VCA type compressor
attack: 10ms
release: .6ms
ratio: 1.5:1
gain reduction: 1.5db on peaks
mood: sleepy
likes: long walks on the beach
dislikes: people who don't listen
favorite food: pizza

got a bit off track there but hope it gives you an idea

Can you put out a link with the unmastered version so that we could hear how it sounded before?

Bang · 16th May 2006

The unmastered version is a 32bit wav mix... What i posted was an MP3 anyway. The original mix literally sounds the same but a little less bright and a lot less loud. The mastering compression just added a bit more pump to compensate for the killing of dynamics.

dreamaudio · 17th May 2006

Steve I want that snare drum

Hottness.

DBarbarulo · 17th May 2006

Quote:

30ms Attack
100ms Release
2:1 ratio

1dB GR

...i'm a Lotto player, can I use this "on all wheels"?

DB

14th May 2006	#1
pingu Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2006 Location: Perth Australia Posts: 665 Thread Starter	Attack and release times Hi guys. I know its all about what you hear, or do i. But i thought it might be worth while to talk about your compressor attack and release times. With attack i normally dont go under 50 ms but thats not written in stone. Release is normally always above 200 ms unless im looking for an effect.

15th May 2006	#8
Darius van H Lives for gear Joined: Feb 2005 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 1,735 Verified Member	With some material like hiphop you might want a pretty fast release that lets go of the music in time with the beat - between the kick and snare.......that's if you're going for a more aggresive type of sound I never really think about attack and release times in terms of numbers - it's so dependant on the model of comp, input level, the knee etc - best just to yank the knobs 'till it feels good. __________________ www.amsterdammastering.com

15th May 2006	#9
Jolle_Cobra Gear interested Joined: May 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 22	Would love to hear some sound-examples of the difference between the orginal sound and the mastered sound. Specially a hiphop track. Wanna know how much you can do with mastering. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/traneofsoulfanatix

15th May 2006	#10
overdose Gear nut Joined: Sep 2004 Location: Huntsville, Alabama Posts: 86	I have a track you can demo I would love to hear how my music sounds pro mastered. I have never had one of my songs mastered.

16th May 2006	#16
Bang Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,701	here is a mastered track: www.blacklinerock.com/music/3.Run.mp3 compressor:RMS 755 VCA type compressor attack: 10ms release: .6ms ratio: 1.5:1 gain reduction: 1.5db on peaks mood: sleepy likes: long walks on the beach dislikes: people who don't listen favorite food: pizza got a bit off track there but hope it gives you an idea __________________ Steven Slate Hear drum samples used by today's top mixers and used on tons of top billboard hits at: www.stevenslatedrums.com SSD Drum Suite now Available for DOWNLOAD!! 40 WORLD CLASS DRUMKITS FOR RTAS/VST/AU www.slatedigital.com DOWNLOAD NEW TRIGGER DEMO! www.slateproaudio.com

15th May 2006	#4
dcollins Lives for gear Joined: Aug 2003 Location: Hollywood CA Posts: 2,625 Verified Member	30ms Attack 100ms Release 2:1 ratio 1dB GR Your Welcome, DC

17th May 2006	#19
dreamaudio Gear nut Joined: May 2004 Posts: 121	Steve I want that snare drum Hottness.

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