Albums mastered with Ozone?

[Anghello]

Originally Posted by complex

this sounds very horrible and flat to me and quite washy. anyone else think so?

Tottaly agree! Harmonics and dynamics are squashed and blurred! No bottom at all or open his. The stereo image is fake and sounds mono in fact. Horrible.

The mix is great and pickup is fine but mastering I think is the worst part.

Guyz should re-master it proper. EMI facility would bring 300ths views not 30. If the song is good it should be pushed well.

PS: i dont like this style of music. But I think it should really be remastered and it can sound much punchier and open.. not just louder. If you guyz dont believe PM me an mix Ill challange it.

[Anghello]

Originally Posted by Rossd25

I have heard that there is little or no difference between the software version of the L2 and the hardware version. I don't know myself because I have never had the luxury of using the hardware version of the L2. Don't get me wrong, when I bash L2 I am just saying that it isn't good for more than -2.5 of gain reduction. I still use it sometimes at the very end of my chain for a tiny bit of limiting and find it competent at that.

To be honest every mastering facility working with digital copys limit digitally.. but the thing its not about brickwall. Brickwall only stops tiny clips but should not be audiable.

[deusex_rapax]

Originally Posted by DaveE

Have you tried the newest version? I'm no mastering expert and haven't used all of those tools you mentioned, but I feel like FGx and Ozone5 both wipe the floor with L2 without much effort.

OP, I believe I read on the Ultimate Metal forums that Joey Sturgis has used Ozone to master his productions. Not 100% sure how accurate that info is.

I worked with Crummett and he told me about a phone call he had with him and he said pretty much all he uses is ozone and ssl comp (not sure if its the waves version or the uad version though.) But i'm sure he changes it up from time to time ya never now. Kris doesn't even use the same chain all the time.

[patheticus]

That's not quite what I said. I had an AIM conversation with Joey, as we do from time to time, where we were discussing mastering compression and limiting. He told me used quite a few plug-ins on his master bus. 2 of which were Ozone 3 and Waves SSL Comp. He seemed hesitant to reveal the other plugs he was using, which is totally understandable. We all have our trade secrets. I think that was almost 2 years ago at this point anyway. So who knows now.

-Kris

Originally Posted by deusex_rapax

I worked with Crummett and he told me about a phone call he had with him and he said pretty much all he uses is ozone and ssl comp (not sure if its the waves version or the uad version though.) But i'm sure he changes it up from time to time ya never now. Kris doesn't even use the same chain all the time.

[Franco]

Originally Posted by patheticus

That's not quite what I said. I had an AIM conversation with Joey, as we do from time to time, where we were discussing mastering compression and limiting. He told me used quite a few plug-ins on his master bus. 2 of which were Ozone 3 and Waves SSL Comp. He seemed hesitant to reveal the other plugs he was using, which is totally understandable. We all have our trade secrets. I think that was almost 2 years ago at this point anyway. So who knows now.

-Kris

And for all you know, he was probably lying to you about everything (that happens too).

Anyway, just wanted to say that regardless of the tools used in mastering, there's the bit about experience (those live in another person's head), and the DAC and Monitoring system (which typically costs quite a bit more than the processing).

[patheticus]

Originally Posted by Franco

And for all you know, he was probably lying to you about everything (that happens too).

Anyway, just wanted to say that regardless of the tools used in mastering, there's the bit about experience (those live in another person's head), and the DAC and Monitoring system (which typically costs quite a bit more than the processing).

I doubt he was lying. I'm not some kid with a computer trying to steal his tricks. We've shared honest info with each other for years. Plus he's a pretty straight up guy. When he doesn't want me or anyone else to know something he doesn't tell.

[deusex_rapax]

Originally Posted by patheticus

That's not quite what I said. I had an AIM conversation with Joey, as we do from time to time, where we were discussing mastering compression and limiting. He told me used quite a few plug-ins on his master bus. 2 of which were Ozone 3 and Waves SSL Comp. He seemed hesitant to reveal the other plugs he was using, which is totally understandable. We all have our trade secrets. I think that was almost 2 years ago at this point anyway. So who knows now.

-Kris

Ahh okay thanks for correcting me, that was just what I remembered off the top of my head, I figured he uses a lot different stuff now from what he used then

[MowingDevil]

Originally Posted by Anghello

Tottaly agree! Harmonics and dynamics are squashed and blurred! No bottom at all or open his. The stereo image is fake and sounds mono in fact. Horrible.

The mix is great and pickup is fine but mastering I think is the worst part.

Guyz should re-master it proper. EMI facility would bring 300ths views not 30. If the song is good it should be pushed well.

PS: i dont like this style of music. But I think it should really be remastered and it can sound much punchier and open.. not just louder. If you guyz dont believe PM me an mix Ill challange it.

Are you basing your opinion here on the YouTube audio?

[Anghello]

Originally Posted by MowingDevil

Are you basing your opinion here on the YouTube audio?

I listened to the youtube. But youtube compression is not the case in this master.

[Darren Jenkins]

Joey Sturgis uses Ozone for mastering. He mixes into it. Quite a few engineers are doing this.

[Anghello]

Originally Posted by Darren Jenkins

Joey Sturgis uses Ozone to master with. He mixes into it. Quite a few engineers are doing this.

I use izotope RX for resampling/dithering or simple cut-fades operations in master. But I really consider that you cannot master with any digital incl. powercore/ua/five systems properly.

[thermos]

Originally Posted by Anghello

I use izotope RX for resampling/dithering or simple cut-fades operations in master. But I really consider that you cannot master with any digital incl. powercore/ua/five systems properly.

Sure you can. May not be as nice as analog to some people, but it can certainly be done. If I had to sell my 20k analog chain, I could master with only Ozone 5 no problem.

[theturtlemafia]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Skrillex yet. Yeah the albums are loud as f*** and not the best master ever, but someone asked for a commercially successful album mastered with Ozone. I doubt you'll find a more successful release than that with Ozone on it.

[Anghello]

I think there are two categories of people. Who cares and who don't.