hypex amps - very bright and forward ?

[tomdarude]

....wait until you hear the Ncore

[fatgaz]

Originally Posted by RuvStyle

With Hypex you can get a high quality possibility to bi-amp for low-costs. I got some B&W 801 S3 connected to it and bi-amping gives me a slightly improvement.
Bi-amping is nice, but therefore you have to have an adequate monitor chain.

having spent a bit of time on the w/end searching the web I've learned lots of stuff. one thing is that Bruno P. thinks* that the super low output impedance of the ncore may mean that bi-wiring from the PCB output may give some of the advantages of passive bi-amping.

I'm itching to get building, so i might start collecting parts together and choose a nice enclosure too.

G.

* if i understood his** posts on another forum

** and if it was actually him posting.

[RuvStyle]

I haven't read the specs of the Ncore, but to me bi-wiring generally is voodoo. With bi-wiring the signal may sound differently, but for me the basic idea of bi-wiring is that the industry earns more money.

The improvement of bi-amping is that the LF has the possibility of using full power without emitting a certain percentage to the MF/HF. But since the MF/HF never need much power it's not that big improvement the way I use it. I use it because I have the possibility, but I think that it can be remarkable when using a nice Class-A for MF/HF.

Have fun with building your amp. Your efforts will it be worth.

[Red Mastering]

Hey gents,
So I managed to put it all together and since Sunday morning - testing it thoroughly.
I have only 1 issue with those amps - lack of higher bass - 150-300Hz...
Beautiful amps, but bit on the bright side...
now - my opinion is very subjective, and I am also spoiled kid, as I switched from valve power amp to hypex...
I miss - big, deep 3 dimension,
bass generally (thumb with punch)
bit of super detailed top end I used to have with valves...

my question would be :
is upgrading to HxR modules will change it ?
I can hear very nice low end, below 100Hz - there's fine, but over 100 - this amps are bit shy imho.
Thing is, I compare it to tube amp, and maybe it's not fair comparison ?
The things I like is very detailed midrange, open and cultural/neutral sound, massive headroom (300W/8Ohm), non fatiguing general presentation

I own PMC TB2, and those monitors with previous amp were sweet combination. I turned monitors upside down, now they are standing 'properly' with tweeter on top. I did it just to try to balance high/bass, so now I got bit less top end, as my ears are on bass cone level.
I moved yesterday monitors closer to back wall (they were around 75cm off wall) to see how it works - and worked very badly:( smaller stage, smaller sound, generally it wasn't good idea)
anyway I am getting through my CD's collection and listening trying to get acquaintance with new sound

if anyone compared 400HG vs HG with HxR modules- please chime in,

[da goose]

I don't think there will be a big difference between the 2 versions you mention. Maybe really subtle things but not a lot.
About the missing midbass, to me it sounds more like the tubeamp that you where using was maybe saturating things to much. Now you have to get used to using a cleaner sounding amp.

[Red Mastering]

Originally Posted by da goose

I don't think there will be a big difference between the 2 versions you mention. Maybe really subtle things but not a lot.
About the missing midbass, to me it sounds more like the tubeamp that you where using was maybe saturating things to much. Now you have to get used to using a cleaner sounding amp.

I am strongly trying to convince myself into this option too)))
that this beautifully playing tubes were actually' lying' to me,
as comparison, let's say you used to have a lover - a beautiful girl, super sexy, and now you have a bit uglier one, you try to convince yourself - the other one has plastic 'b@@bs' and other surgery, that's the reason she was so perfect...
now the new one - is uglier, well, but more 'natural'

[da goose]

Originally Posted by Red Mastering

I am strongly trying to convince myself into this option too)))
that this beautifully playing tubes were actually' lying' to me,
as comparison, let's say you used to have a lover - a beautiful girl, super sexy, and now you have a bit uglier one, you try to convince yourself - the other one has plastic 'b@@bs' and other surgery, that's the reason she was so perfect...
now the new one - is uglier, well, but more 'natural'

But your new girlfriend, even though more ugly, is more intelligent and won't have leaking implants after all.

I'd seriously say: give it some time and let it run in for a couple of days.
Some time a go one of my modules broke down and i had to get back to a pretty decent denon amp i still had but man.. what a difference..
Hypex repaired the module REALLY quick and for free even though when removing it from the case i damaged it (elco's where not discharged, my mistake). Great service, great amps, great guys! (they are from the Netherlands, what else would you expect. )

[Greg Reierson]

I would not call the Hypex amps bass shy. Ruler flat comes to mind. As Bruno says, put the excitement in the recording, not the playback gear.

Speaker placement can by tricky business. Inches can make a large difference. Make very small changes, take careful notes and measurements, be methodical and eventually you'll find the best placement of the speakers and your listening position.

GR

[rondr]

The UcD400 HG HxR I put together has been going for a month or so now and the description IMO is quiet, clean and clear. Fatiguing? No, not at all.

[Audiop]

Originally Posted by RuvStyle

But since the MF/HF never need much power it's not that big improvement the way I use it.

Hi!

Actually often the power requirements for the high range is similar or higher than the low range. The average power is typically way less but if you don't want constantly clipping transients you need serious peak power even for the mid and high range.

/Peter