Your Favorite Limiter Plugin?
View Poll Results: Favorite Limiter?
112db Big Blue
2 Votes - 0.20%
Brainworx bx_XL
16 Votes - 1.64%
Fabfilter Pro-L
188 Votes - 19.24%
iZotope Ozone
108 Votes - 11.05%
PSP Xenon
71 Votes - 7.27%
Slate FG-X
106 Votes - 10.85%
Sonnox
141 Votes - 14.43%
UAD Precision
64 Votes - 6.55%
Voxengo Elephant
134 Votes - 13.72%
Waves L2 / L3
147 Votes - 15.05%
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Usually, yes. But not always. It depends, obviously.

In those (few) cases I'm talking about, it's not like the mix is clipping the whole time - key words in my post are 'large' and 'spurious'. Sometimes I'd take something with no release time that distorts a teensy bit for a squerzillisecond. It depends what sounds best. Obviously.

Besides, the Mytek is pretty clean until it 'goes', then it gets very very ugly very quickly. I don't let it go that far.

Obviously.
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Love the UAD PL, but I have used the Sonnox Limiter very much lately
, there is something in the coloring that I like.


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Voxengo Elephant is pretty good!!
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I find that clipping before processing often brings out some form of unpleasant harmonic distortion. I mean do you like working on mixes that clients have clipped? There are other ways to absorb transients besides clipping them that usually sounds more musical ime.
True. It's nice to have the option though and being able to do so in a variety of ways.
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Melda Production MDynamics Limiter thumbsup

MeldaProduction MDynamicsLimiter, mastering brickwall limiter
+1! Try to Keep that on the schtum though


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The only limiters on that list I couldn't ever imagine using during mastering is the Brainworx bx_XL & Big Blue. Maybe its just me, but I just do not like what bx does to the signal, at pretty much any setting. I really couldn't find its forte . Big blue sounds much more like a traditional limiting amplifier than a bw limiter; much more at home smashing ten bails out of a drum buss than limiting program material. Any of them could be a favourite depending on the track though.
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I like the elephant, but I tried the L316 at a local studio and it was amazing!
Elephant gives me alot of pumping at those extremes.
Anyone tried both? Maybe my release settings have been off. They are usually very low.

I used it on the following tune, trying to limit as little as possible staying at -15rms. I really hate the loudness war.
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t.c. 6000 with MD4 is what I use most, but if I had to pick from that list, I suppose probably the Sonnox (previously aka Sony Oxford). I used an L2 hardware for several years that also seemed to work, but it had a sound and a certain behavior that you had to be aware of.
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Wow. Fab-Filter Pro-L Bam! Their comp-eq-limiter plugs are now essential to me.
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I really like the Massey with little reduction....sometimes followed by a Sonnox which is really fun to use in a musical way but sounds like crap when you push it. I've spent days playing with TRacks 3 limiter and I just don't like it on any setting. L2 has a reliable pump that can be cool with subtle reduction. L3 seems harsh no matter what. Ozone has a lot of fun possibilities with M/S multi-band / phase tricks but I don't like the limiter much unless it's doing very little work. I haven't found a limiter plug that I can push and enjoy the resulting sound. I think it's all about musical / rhythmic compression and subtle limiting. Enjoy the pulse! Keep it around -15RMS.
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Just did some A/B between Fabfilter Pro-L , Elephant and Sonnox. Can definitely achieve very close sound between them all relatively easily. I have to give credit to FF and Elephant for creating cool GUIS and more detailed metering options / on screen stats. Most of the time I just listen for what sounds best but I enjoy the eye candy. I would like Elephant to have the transient shaping options right out front along with a few other key controls that are buried. There's something to be said about the simplicity with the Sonnox limiter. Took me about 5 minutes to dial in the same sound on both the FF and Elephant to match the a sound that I can get in 2 seconds with the Sonnox. I'm sure more time with the new plugs will equate to me finding sounds more efficiently but they both have layers of controls and I really like it when everything is right there for you to tweak like the Massey or the Sonnox. Then again, I'd really like better metering / stats on the Sonnox and Massey
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I am curently using the Flux Pure Limiter II and I found it one of best digital limiters.
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Your Favorite Limiter Plugin?

Love Elephant. Worst I've tried is L3 hands down in several aspects.
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Id like to change my vote to fabfilter. Im getting cleaner results from it, even when really pushing it, and it takes me less time to get there.
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I don't know all the limiters listed above but the one i prefer is Voxengo Elephant
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I did some shootouts between the Sonnox limiter, Fabfilter Pro-L and PSP Xanon. for me the Pro-L is the clear winner, it's less distractive, the most transparent of the three and has more control. it doesn't add the color the other limiters I've tried adds and it keeps the frequency balance much better..
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Quote:
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t.c. 6000 with MD4 is what I use most, but if I had to pick from that list, I suppose probably the Sonnox (previously aka Sony Oxford). I used an L2 hardware for several years that also seemed to work, but it had a sound and a certain behavior that you had to be aware of.
TC 6000 MD3/4 + sonnox limiter are the tools ending my chain now too.
They both make the best limiter stage for me.
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some limiters may be more transparent for 1 db or less limiting , rating the limiters that can get you the loudest ,i don t care much, i want the more transparent even if it can t limit more than 0.5 db
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Another bump for FF Pro-L. I spent the day comparing Elephant, Pro-L, and Ozone4 and it easily gave me more open, transparent sound at levels we shouldn't be using. But since loudness is still very much part of the business, it's nice to have a tool that can push things into that realm and still give you precise control over how much ends up distortion and how much stays snappy transients.

YMMV.
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It's pretty impressive how popular the Fabfilter Pro L already is while it's only released two months ago.
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Used to work with Waves L316 for years. Sounded okay in those days (i thought).

But i found out: If you need multiband limiting so badly....what went wrong in the mix ?

So i've tried Voxengo Elephant. IMO, this is a much better and stable limiter with much less destruction of the transients, compared to L316.

When FabFilter Pro-L came available i've tested it against Elephant.
Both have good transparency (Pro-L, in transparant-mode, has slightly better transparency).

I think Elephant can produce slightly more loudness but i like Pro-L more because it has more controls to fine-tune the limiting character(s). Also the animated wave-graphics help you to see what you're actually doing !



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Your Favorite Limiter Plugin?

Anyone use the limiter onboard the Eventide 7600? Any good?
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Let's get this straight, sonnox might have managed to become widely used plugins, but their limiter is now far from the best performing limiter.

In my opinion, fg-x and ozone in int.2 mode are the best limiters by far at the moment, followed by the mighty xenon.

Happy new year everybody
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[QUOTE=vascomusic;6167029]Used to work with Waves L316 for years. Sounded okay in those days (i thought).

But i found out: If you need multiband limiting so badly....what went wrong in the mix ?

L3 is the same without multiband
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Not surprised to see Sonnox at the top. I've used many of the others on that list and Sonnox just blows everything away in my humble opinion. Just a good, easy to use limiter that makes it very, very hard for an idiot like me to squash things.
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If someone really wants his master f.cking loud I use multramaximizer (boost temp. gain) together with another limiter or clipper.
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Well it's not always about trying to get insanely loud. For me it's more about trying to get a good level in the most transparent / open sounding way.
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Used to work with Waves L316 for years. Sounded okay in those days (i thought).

But i found out: If you need multiband limiting so badly....what went wrong in the mix ?
L3 is the same without multiband
L3 Multimaximizer limits in multiple bands as well. And IIRC the L3 Ultramaximizer (the streamlined version that doesn't provide the user with band controls) still splits into multiple bands under the hood.
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Sonnox here plus a few hardware limiters (L2 and a sorta secret weapon). I think the Sonnox can sound pretty different depending on how you set it, so it makes sense that there's no consensus on it. Try using it dual mono sometime- that's kind of cool on certain material, sort of like unlinked mode on a hardware L2, gives a bit of spread.
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Sonnox Limiter and Elephant 3.

Sonnox can sometimes distort pad sounds and rhodes. Achieves
very high loudness in my experience.

Elephant 3 is cleaner but may pump more than Sonnox.
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