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Old 11th October 2010   #1
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Speaker cable wire how many gauge?

Trying to find good cable/wire around 6ft long for passive speakers

I was thinking of monster cable 16 gauge

but whats the best?

Think of price range under $100
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16 gauge seems pretty thin to me. I'm using 10 gauge from JSC for my B&W N802's - will cost you way less than $100.

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12ga would be a minimum for me, 10ga depending...
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thnx for suggestions
found these any ideas?

25' HIGH-DEFINITION 10 ga Gauge AWG Speaker Cable Wire - eBay (item 360266163151 end time Oct-22-10 13:11:17 PDT)

http://cgi.ebay.com/15-HIGH-DEFINITI...ht_5073wt_1206
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Good service. Lots of choices. Solid products.
I like Canare 4S11.

Speaker Cable at Blue Jeans Cable
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Edit: YOU BEAT ME! That's what I get for opening 20 thread tabs at once and not getting to read the most recent posts when I reply.

10 gauge here.

I'm a big fan of Blue Jeans Cables. Speaker Cable at Blue Jeans Cable
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Trying to find good cable/wire around 6ft long for passive speakers

I was thinking of monster cable 16 gauge

but whats the best?

Think of price range under $100
Forget Monster cable. Use 12 gauge minimum, 10 if you can fit it in the connectors.

Give remaining $95 to charity.


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coathanger.......after a bit of manipulating it does become the true straight wire.......
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I'm using 6mm multistrand for the bottom N' 1mm solid core silver for the top.

Best sounding combo I ever tried so I'm going with it!
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Do yourself a big favor.
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Do yourself a big favor.
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There go those Scientist's with their lab coats and fancy book learning trying to kill our art.

Just because they can't hear the difference and are too poor to use Silver cables, they think just regular wire will do!



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but whats the best?
If the speaker impedance is relatively high and flat and distance as short as 6ft the cables likely doesn't matter (within reasonable limits..).

The best cable is basically the one that has the same R-C-L as the cable the speaker was designed with.

IOW a serious speaker manufacturer should specify the impedance of the cable.

In practice this means different gauge and geometry depending on the length of the cable since resistance and inductance adds up as the conductor length increases.


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Quite happy with garden variety 10awg copper here.

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Quite happy with garden variety 10awg copper here.

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That seems reasonable to me.
Bear in mind that your speakers probably have 200' of 24AWG or smaller wire inside them. That's a gross estimation of course but you get what I'm hinting?
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You really should pick out a few and compare. Find a distributor of whatever "fine" cable you feel best about, make sure they'll take a return, and order up a couple of 6' lengths. Then run over to the local hardware store and grab a 25' 12ga extension cord, cut off two 6' lengths, and compare to the "fine" cables. It would help if you couldn't see the cables, and had someone swap them, so you don't know what's connected. The give a good, long, hard listen, and let us know what you think.

Another non-exotic to try is RG-8U coax cable. It's a 50 ohm RF cable, some times Radio Shack has it. One of the earlier cable studies cited it as one of the best sounding speaker cables available. Low C, low L, low R, passes megahertz with little loss. If you want all that (and you might not), it's a win. Frankly, most medium-power RF cables make really high performance speaker wires, if a bit hard to work with. For about the same price as high-end speaker wires you can even get large diameter (like 3") co-axial copper transmission line, with hollow dielectric area that you can pressurize with various gasses like nitrogen, helium, etc. Every low R, L, and C, high current, and low loss up to the GHz.

And you'll like it better than coat hangers! It polishes up real pretty.

By the way, two spaced coat hangers have a lot of inductance, relatively speaking, and because they're not copper, higher R than you might expect too.
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There go those Scientist's with their lab coats and fancy book learning trying to kill our art.

Just because they can't hear the difference and are too poor to use Silver cables, they think just regular wire will do!



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Tried a bunch of stuff N ended up with that little combo.
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Do yourself a big favor.
Speaker Wire
B*****k's to all of that stuff!

I've done myself a big favor and sussed out that you need real good quality, solid core metal running the top end!
My eardrobes told me!

1mm of silver running at around 4 m, total, ain't gonna kill yer wallet!
Did I buy it from some w**ky co.?
Did I f**k!
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