Any idea what type of work is being done here?

[rg_dancemusic]

Hi, this is my first post here
I would like to know what type of work is being done in this master?
1. final mix
2. master
modern club house mp3_192k
Thanks.

[strdsk]

Sounds like they're running their mix through a flux capacitance Johnson Rod Maximizer...jk. Welcome to the board...lol! Best...JD!

[Affinity_Sound]

I would say its more of a multi-sonic portal into a parallel compressed universe. Maybe a touch of C02 introduced during atmospheric normalization and MP3idge... But to be honest, I haven't heard it yet!

[wado1942]

Doesn't sound like they did much other than boost the top end a little, compress it, then slam it with a limiter.

I actually like the unmastered version better.

[Ari-M.]

this must be the 3rd or 4th time i have heard this track in a post or in the chat room

what gives....is this all coming from the same person, or is this getting passed around ?

in any event the master sounds pretty destroyed....kick went form something interesting to a click (of sorts)....this is WAYYYYY over limited....

I personally prefer the mix to the master

[Jesse Graffam]

Originally Posted by wado1942

Doesn't sound like they did much other than boost the top end a little, compress it, then slam it with a limiter.

I actually like the unmastered version better.

I obviously don't love it when that happens, but it's happening more & more these days. Why can't there be a damn law that forces people to have near 10 years experience before they start charging people. It's what I did, because I never accepted that my mastering was good enough, until I had consistency and was able to "hang with" the sound most anyone else (on the "high-end" level of mastering, perception wise anyways) was capable of doing. And the proper monitoring to be a judge in the first place. thumbsup

[aivoryuk]

there something familiar about this track, like I've heard it before
It's not my master by the way but did supply a demo for this track

[rg_dancemusic]

Originally Posted by aivoryuk

there something familiar about this track, like I've heard it before

Hi Alex. thanks again for master the track I think your master is the most balanced one. This master is from other guy and i know is too loud, but i would like to know what was done in the low frequency area, because the bass sound to me more transparent.
Cheers!

[pmx]

This master is from other guy and i know is too loud, but i would like to know what was done in the low frequency area, because the bass sound to me more transparent.

well, why don't you ask him?

[Jesse Graffam]

Just heard the demo clip mix and master. Honestly even with mp3, the master isn't bad. Not sure Ari, maybe something is wrong with your mp3 playback and you're not getting a bit-accurate output from your (hopefully) reference quality decoder like FhG's... to your converter. iTunes is another possible major quality loss.

What I'm mainly hearing in the master with the kick drum is some hole punching around the kick drum. And some low frequency EQ, below the initial fundamental of the kick. As far as what could make it sound more transparent.

But also remember there's been a pretty decent density change too, so that can totally effect how the average spectral balance sounds alone, without any EQ required in many cases. So... Yeah, ask him or her.

[Ari-M.]

Originally Posted by Jesse Graffam

Just heard the demo clip mix and master. Honestly even with mp3, the master isn't bad. Not sure Ari, maybe something is wrong with your mp3 playback and you're not getting a bit-accurate output from your (hopefully) reference quality decoder like FhG's... to your converter. iTunes is another possible major quality loss.

why do you always have to make a snarky comment like no one else knows what they are doing....I am quite sure what i have here to listen through is more than good enough

nothing is wrong with anything on my end champ....

the mastered track has transformed the kick from something interesting (in the mix) into something resembling a click IMO...that is what i said....I am sticking to it

I prefer the mix to the master....

stop with the snarky BS you post everywhere....believe it or not....you are not the only guy who has been doing this for a while

tutt

[Jesse Graffam]

Originally Posted by Ari-M.

nothing is wrong with anything on my end champ....

I used the words "maybe" and "possibly" for a reason, while I was asking you a question, and I am glad nothing is wrong.

I have nothing against you Ari, and I don't care if you decide to hate on me for whatever reason. It wouldn't and doesn't bother me.

Originally Posted by Ari-M.

the mastered track has transformed the kick from something interesting (in the mix) into something resembling a click IMO...that is what i said....I am sticking to it

It's your opinion, and one maybe shouldn't change one's opinion simply based on someone else's opinion. Shouldn't that go without saying?

I wouldn't have bothered to ask you anything, if I had no respect for your opinion.

My setup to audition this was: Winamp using FhG's reference decoder with currently default settings, decoding into 32bits dithered to 24bits at Winamp's output to an Apogee Mini-DAC with Beyerdynamic DT-880 Pro 250 Ohm cans plugged in. I also experimented with my EQ correction (linear-phase) turned off (bit accurate output from FhG), and also mp3Gain on the mp3s (changes mp3 gain without re-encoding) to prevent clipping on the output due to mp3 coding - which honestly wasn't very prevalent on this particular clip. It should have a very minimal impact on sound quality unless there is more serious problems with the playback system, such as a faulty clipping of "over" samples during decoding. That's what I came away from it with.

And yes, of course it's also possible we heard the same things, but have different sensitivities to different things. I deal with a case of EXTREME sensitivity to clipping artifacts on a daily basis in the broadcast audio processing industry, my friend Leif Claesson. We're both very accustomed to each other's superior hearing abilities in certain areas, and also what bothers each of us more than the other. If you are more sensitive to clipping induced distortion than I am, it is far from a foreign situation for me to understand where someone's coming from - not that you've given me the chance.

Originally Posted by Ari-M.

I prefer the mix to the master....

We agree on something. thumbsup

Originally Posted by Ari-M.

stop with the snarky BS you post everywhere....believe it or not....you are not the only guy who has been doing this for a while

I have nothing against anyone here. Hate begets hate at least to some degree. I want to be able to love without qualification. Even though I will never achieve it, I don't see myself giving up trying.

[fenderbender.]

Originally Posted by rg_dancemusic

Hi, this is my first post here
I would like to know what type of work is being done in this master?
1. final mix
2. master
modern club house mp3_192k
Thanks.

The master is louder

[rg_dancemusic]

Originally Posted by fenderbender.

The master is louder

Yes is loud, but ME bring out the bass and kick and put it in your face and it still sound transparent.
I just trying to understand how it was done for do it in the final mix.

Cheers.

[Jesse Graffam]

Originally Posted by rg_dancemusic

bring out the bass and kick and put it in your face and it still sound transparent.

The most transparent way to do only that, without remixing, is with an EQ.