Kindly recommend a good linear phase eq

[Ari-M.]

Originally Posted by dcollins

It's not linear-phase in any sense. It's a traditional minimum-phase EQ.


DC

hence my statement that it is not an LP EQ? sorry if you thought i was saying that it was in any way

I have modified my post to reflect that....

it's still a very good EQ IMO....

I don't really use the LP stuff, because my experience with it has been less ideal than traditional EQ....and I don't really work on any music where it would be beneficial....although I have used it on some solo piano and some string masters

[huejahfink]

Originally Posted by Ari-M.

dang I guess I am going to have to spring for the RED to try it, as I can't seem to find a demo anywhere

Not so. I would certainly advise against buying it without trying ESPECIALLY if you are not a fan of LP.

Fill in the demo request form on this page....

10-band precise linear-phase parametric DirectX/VST Equalizer for mastering and re-mastering of complex mixes without changing their character


Or otherwise just write to them and ask for a demo at pro-support@algorithmix.com .


EDIT :- I add too that the latency on this plugin is HUGE! Even at the lowest quality setting. I don't consider this a problem for mastering, but it seems that they considered the best route to high quality would be to introduce a very large delay for the processing.

[Ari-M.]

Originally Posted by huejahfink

Not so. I would certainly advise against buying it without trying ESPECIALLY if you are not a fan of LP.

Fill in the demo request form on this page....

10-band precise linear-phase parametric DirectX/VST Equalizer for mastering and re-mastering of complex mixes without changing their character


Or otherwise just write to them and ask for a demo at pro-support@algorithmix.com .


EDIT :- I add too that the latency on this plugin is HUGE! Even at the lowest quality setting. I don't consider this a problem for mastering, but it seems that they considered the best route to high quality would be to introduce a very large delay for the processing.

thanks for that information....the latency does concern me

[huejahfink]

Originally Posted by Ari-M.

thanks for that information....the latency does concern me

It won't hurt to try it though.

[Ari-M.]

Originally Posted by huejahfink

It won't hurt to try it though.

can't see how it could....

I wouldn't mind having another tool available, for when the situation arises

I am concerned over the latency, because I do employ parallel side chains from time to time...I suppose I could do some simple math and use delay to compensate for this

[huejahfink]

All worthy hosts should compensate for this anyway in a digital environment. This is what the manual says on the matter.

"Important remarks about latency

Do not be angry with the unusual long latency when using LinerPhase PEQ Red, especially at high Accuracy settings (up to one second). It is just the natural property of linear-phase filters and nobody is able to reduce the latency at particular accuracy level. The reason is that linear-phase filters, independent on the way they are implemented, need a long part of the past and future signal for calculations. Please understand that there is no equivalent of linear-phase filtering in nature and such filters became possible first after introducing DSP technology. If you want to use linear-phase filters you must “pay” with increased latency. If you absolutely cannot tolerate longer latency you should use classical PEQs which apply so called minimal-phase filters. "

[Ari-M.]

Originally Posted by huejahfink

All worthy hosts should compensate for this anyway in a digital environment. This is what the manual says on the matter.

"Important remarks about latency

Do not be angry with the unusual long latency when using LinerPhase PEQ Red, especially at high Accuracy settings (up to one second). It is just the natural property of linear-phase filters and nobody is able to reduce the latency at particular accuracy level. The reason is that linear-phase filters, independent on the way they are implemented, need a long part of the past and future signal for calculations. Please understand that there is no equivalent of linear-phase filtering in nature and such filters became possible first after introducing DSP technology. If you want to use linear-phase filters you must “pay” with increased latency. If you absolutely cannot tolerate longer latency you should use classical PEQs which apply so called minimal-phase filters. "

the key there is worthy host....

this was the biggest problem I had with Waves LP eq's....the delay compensation in PT HD was quite a bit off

also I use a tc 6000 mainframe....and, sadly, there is no way for the host DAW to calculate it's own internal latencies....

it's become a bit of a nightmare to be honest....still going to give this RED LP a crack though....

[huejahfink]

In fact here is the manual. I'm sure they won't mind me reproducing it in this context.

[Teddy Ray]

Originally Posted by PBM

As I thought the opposite I'm keen to know on what grounds - just a friendly enquiry! I did a lot of comparisons between the two as I had the Red for an SOS review and already owned the Weiss. Did you try it on a range of music or were there specific uses you preferred?

You have BK somewhat on your side of course, and as I said before, also the specifications, but the Weiss for me did (does) nicer things to the music I was (am) working with.

Cheers,

Eric

THe Weiss is very musical/nice sounding but it does not have the surgical precision of the Algo Red. Basically, the red stays out of the way more.. EQ is not an area in which I want "color"

[mmplisskin]

Most of you probably don't master in waveburner/logic... but the apple linear phase Eq is actually pretty good.

[PBM]

Originally Posted by Teddy Ray

THe Weiss is very musical/nice sounding but it does not have the surgical precision of the Algo Red. Basically, the red stays out of the way more.. EQ is not an area in which I want "color"

Indeed that is the standard, oft-cited view. Except a Weiss LP is not really `coloured' in any sense (except the ringing of any LP).

As my impressions were a tad different (except at a theoretical level the musical niceness - and I don't mean colour - was not inversely proportional to the precision I needed) and I had a lot of exposure to both EQ's, working on a number of professional projects which benefitted from them both, I was wondering, as I said, about the conditions of the comparisons.

You're a serious man, and I take your opinions seriously, but there's an awful lot of simple re-assertion and arguments from authority (`I've heard it's really good!') going on elsewhere. It's not easy to get a Red and a Weiss in the same room.

Cheers,

Eric

(Oh yes: PM sent)

[friforal]

Originally Posted by Jeff Hayat

Maybe like the one Bob Katz is using in this vid?

YouTube - Mastering Audio by Bob Katz

Now, if BK is using that, it may be out of my price range, but if anyone knows what that is, kindly feel free to share.

And any other recommendations for a good linear phase eq would be appreciated.

BTW - did a search for 'linear phase eq' , but got a "Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms."

Which, TBH, I found rather starnge...

Thanks in advance!

BK use algo red . MY dad have bought me this one for my birthday

and yes it is very very good even if you boost hard it sounds good!

to me like the lexicon bundle it is a MUST HAVE

CHEERS