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Old 12th July 2010   #1
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bringing midrange back in phase?

got a song from a client here that's pretty out-of-phase in the mid range. now, typically, because i work with a lot of ambient and experimental music that goes to CD or digital (hardly ever mono/radio).. some phase issues can be OK or even sound interesting in context... however, this one is a bit annoying, and i'd like to fix it.

i know i can use something like BX Control to mono lower frequencies and clean up some phase issues,... but, what about the mid range? is it worth trying to correct just the mid range phase of a song? or is that going to be problematic?

EDIT: i take that back... out of phase material is 5khz and up.. not mid... so i need to bring high end back in phase...

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Is everything in the highs out of phase or is it certain sounds? You might find that bringing some sounds back into phase might put others out of phase...

Anyway, hard to tell without a sound snippet.

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Waves S1 allows for phase rotation of a selected frequency band settable by degree. Maybe you could check out the demo and see whether it helps at all in this case.

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You can use DrMS's Field section to turn out of phase info back into mono-centered info (true mid info). You can even combine the original out of phase info (Side) with the new mono-made stuff (Field), as there is no stereoshift.
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yes, the SHuffler does that.... however, the top freq is only around 1.5k.. i need to go up to around 4k...

that probably would have worked well though!

i guess i could separate the song into 2 or three frequency layers with the tight crossovers and then treat the high-end layer with S1's (not shuffler) regular rotation parameter..

that may introduce more phase problems at the layer's crossover points though..

hmmmm

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yes, the SHuffler does that.... however, the top freq is only around 1.5k.. i need to go up to around 4k...

that probably would have worked well though!

i guess i could separate the song into 2 or three frequency layers with the tight crossovers and then treat the high-end layer with S1's (not shuffler) regular rotation parameter..

that may introduce more phase problems at the layer's crossover points though..

hmmmm
With DrMS, you can use its build in linear phase filters to work on the area needed.
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