How you cool (refrigerate) your machines?

[JohnyJoe]

Hi,
I have a Sterling Plan A furniture with some machines in there...
now, in summer, my machines are on fire (almost literally)... my Carillon
PC stop because of the high temperatures...
Anyone have solutions for this?
I put a pair of fans on last of the furniture but I don't know if it's the best way to fix the problem....
Thanks

[Scotty Traxx]

Hey JohnyJoe ,

Even I experienced the same problem as I keep my machines always on, just fixing a pair of fan could not help you, try to give some rest to your machines, I mean switch off your machines for few hours and continue it......
This could really help you

[aleatoric]

My computer is in the next room over, there is an AC in that room. Not too much outboard (really just my DAC and I/O) currently in my studio but it is kept cold via a central AC duct. Do you not have AC in your studio? That seems like the easiest and most obvious solution to me. Fans are noisy and are not really going to keep equipment from overheating in extreme temperatures.

[24-96 Mastering]

Originally Posted by JohnyJoe

Hi,
I have a Sterling Plan A furniture with some machines in there...
now, in summer, my machines are on fire (almost literally)... my Carillon
PC stop because of the high temperatures...
Anyone have solutions for this?
I put a pair of fans on last of the furniture but I don't know if it's the best way to fix the problem....
Thanks

Machine room

If you can put the computer out of the sterling console, away from warm, enclosed spaces, and into a separate room, it should be fine without any cooling, assuming the internal fans are working fine. The added benefit is that you're rid of the computer fan noise.

[adamgonsa]

For the gear: If you don't have a machine room I think the options are a quiet central AC system, and turning off/taking breaks. Fans aren't worth it.

For you: Be at peace with the fact that it's gonna suck for a couple weeks in the summer. Try to wake up early and do as much work as you can before before the temperature gets ugly. Works over here.

[api2500]

Dyson Air Multiplier

[da goose]

Originally Posted by api2500

Dyson Air Multiplier

wow! how does that work? I really wonder..
I just bought a dyson vacuumcleaner last week, it's really great but really free of noise

But here in the studio it's isolated so well that it stays really cool in the studio. This week it was something like 34 degrees outside and in my house also over 30 but in the studio it was a cosy 25 degrees. I try to shut of tube equipment and other heatgenerators of as long as possible. When it turns hot, it stays hot during the day but the concrete floor (floating wood floor on top with some holes to breath) cools things down for the next morning no. No AC needed!

[macc]

A big +1 on the Dyson.

All you Miele jokers need to GTFO tutt

[macc]

That balloon video on the Dyson page is one of the best things I have ever seen.

I want to be a Dyson engineer :(

EDIT: @ dagoose: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gChp0Cy33eY

Looks like a novel utilisation of the Bernoulli effect

[PBM]

Originally Posted by macc

A big +1 on the Dyson.

All you Miele jokers need to GTFO tutt

You and your Spider/Ladybird buster ...

Dyson Don't Do Dog Hairs. I rest my (Miele) case.

Is GTFO rude?

I hope not ...

[api2500]

Originally Posted by macc

A big +1 on the Dyson.

All you Miele jokers need to GTFO tutt

Everyone loves a bit of Dyson.

[JohnyJoe]

Originally Posted by api2500

Everyone loves a bit of Dyson.

I agree

[Nordenstam]

Had a look at the Dyson page. The airflow multiplication idea is good. Though it all starts with some movement of air, as usual. This is provided by a fan in the base. So basically it replaces a big fan with a smaller one. Seldom a good idea! The noiselevel is, according to some user reports on the net, way above a simiarly sized big blade fan.

[macc]

Yeah but you can't make balloon assault courses with normal fans.

[UnderTow]

Originally Posted by adamgonsa

For the gear: If you don't have a machine room I think the options are a quiet central AC system, and turning off/taking breaks.

Actually, as long as you are within temperature specs, it is best to leave your equipment on. (24/7) The shrinking and expanding of all the electronics etc caused by the temperature changes when turning the equipment on/off is worse than just leaving it on.

Alistair

[Robert Randolph]

Originally Posted by api2500

Everyone loves a bit of Dyson.

Until you try a real vacuum miele

[Thomas W. Bethe]

Separate machine room with separate A/C is the best way to go.

Depending on the PC it is sometimes better to leave the sides open for better cooling but some cases are thermodynamically designed to work better with the case closed.

Best of luck on finding a solution that works for you.

[Red Mastering]

My Pc is in rack, about 70 cm from my head,
just in hands range,
it's 4core athlon 3.4 gig
passive hd4850 inside

my pc has below 50 C all the time, when heavy loaded - 55
all hard drives - below 40 C
mobo inside - below 40

and most important part is - it's noiseless...
completely,
I mean if you stick your ear into case you will hear fans, but from 30 cm range - it's noiseless
I built PC myself,
idea is simply - good quality fans - at first (papst - expensive fans but noiseless)
and second - placement of fans and components like hds and power supply inside box, plus box placement is important too (vertical ver horiz.)
I have actually 6 fans inside!
third - very quiet CPU fan and power supply

if you have new mobo - most of them have internal system to change fans voltage - depending on the measured temperature (PC, don't know MAC)

this is very comfy set up,
no noise, no hassle, and PC just in range

if you UK based, drop me an email I'll gladly help you

peace

[aleatoric]

Originally Posted by macc

Yeah but you can't make balloon assault courses with normal fans.

Plus you can put your head through that air multiplying Dyson fan. As we all know this was previously a dangerous feat with normal fans, finally a solution for those of us who have always been tempted but did not want to suffer the painful consequence of a fan blade to the eye ball!

[api2500]

Originally Posted by Lupo

Had a look at the Dyson page. The airflow multiplication idea is good. Though it all starts with some movement of air, as usual. This is provided by a fan in the base. So basically it replaces a big fan with a smaller one. Seldom a good idea! The noiselevel is, according to some user reports on the net, way above a simiarly sized big blade fan.

All the big fans I've heard are really annoying. And rattle, big time.

Originally Posted by aleatoric

Plus you can put your head through that air multiplying Dyson fan. As we all know this was previously a dangerous feat with normal fans, finally a solution for those of us who have always been tempted but did not want to suffer the painful consequence of a fan blade to the eye ball!

I think it's very Star Trek-esque.

[macc]

Originally Posted by aleatoric

Plus you can put your head through that air multiplying Dyson fan.

But it might multiply your head by up to 18x

[api2500]

Originally Posted by macc

But it might multiply your head by up to 18x

With some of the egos on GS that won't help.

[dcollins]

Originally Posted by PBM

You and your Spider/Ladybird buster ...

Dyson Don't Do Dog Hairs. I rest my (Miele) case.

As a owner of two hairy dogs, I disagree about the Dyson, as it works very well here.

While I have heard quiet computers, I personally think the separate machine room is the only way to go. I have a remote reading thermometer in mine and it's always around 75-77F. That's either 0.01 or 672 degrees centipede, I can never remember the conversion.


DC

[aleatoric]

Originally Posted by macc

but it might multiply your head by up to 18x

lol.

Originally Posted by api2500

with some of the egos on gs that won't help.

lol.

[silverking]

Originally Posted by Lupo

The airflow multiplication idea is good. Though it all starts with some movement of air, as usual. This is provided by a fan in the base.

It's not actually a fan in the base, it's a functioning compressor.

It doesn't "blow" air at all, it compresses it.
The actual amount of air that's compressed (if it was released without modification) is very small.

Other than the device ultimately moving air, it's got no relation to a blade fan........ it's actually a lot more like your refrigerator, air conditioner, or heat pump than any similarity to a blade fan.........only the Dyson is a lot more efficient than any of those antiques.

[aaeronn]

Don't forget to open up the case once in a while and blow all the accumulated dust/pet hair/random particulate junk out of the vents, fans and power supply. That stuff really gums up the air flow if you let it accumulate.

[api2500]

Originally Posted by silverking

It's not actually a fan in the base, it's a functioning compressor.

It doesn't "blow" air at all, it compresses it.
The actual amount of air that's compressed (if it was released without modification) is very small.

Other than the device ultimately moving air, it's got no relation to a blade fan........ it's actually a lot more like your refrigerator, air conditioner, or heat pump than any similarity to a blade fan.........only the Dyson is a lot more efficient than any of those antiques.

It is a spinning fan like thing. Believe me. Like their vacuum cleaners. It uses air for suction rather than the '3D blade' itself.

YouTube - Developing the Dyson Air Multiplier

YouTube - Sir James Dyson explains his bladeless fan

*edit* Don't watch past 3:20. Get bloody boring.

It's not that loud, you can hear James's voice over the fan.

I think this is the future of internal computer system cooling.

[JohnyJoe]

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