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Old 9th July 2010   #1
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When I stepped out of my house yesterday morning for a run (actually more of a shuffle) I was struck by the immediacy and starkness of the day.
The contrast between the blue of the sky and the green of the trees was
harsh and distinct. The colors brilliant and bold. As I plodded along I began to notice the sounds.
Birds everywhere. Distant sound of a chainsaw. Even more distant sound of
a jet. The sounds where bouncing everywhere, deep and directional, full
of different textures. Infinitely more interesting.

For me sound beats vision.
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When I stepped out of my house yesterday morning for a run (actually more of a shuffle) I was struck by the immediacy and starkness of the day.
The contrast between the blue of the sky and the green of the trees was
harsh and distinct. The colors brilliant and bold. As I plodded along I began to notice the sounds.
Birds everywhere. Distant sound of a chainsaw. Even more distant sound of
a jet. The sounds where bouncing everywhere, deep and directional, full
of different textures. Infinitely more interesting.

For me sound beats vision.
Nah - get out into the countryside and try counting the innumerable shades of green in just one field.

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I did more growing up in the woods of northern Minnesota than anywhere else. I'm very glad things worked out that way. The beauty of nature, when you get into areas that are that untouched...

I really couldn't be forced to pick any one of my senses as being superior, based on my surroundings, when everything that's man-made gets removed. The whole package is perfect.
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try counting the innumerable shades of green in just one field.
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or the shades of blue in the sea

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I really couldn't be forced to pick any one of my senses as being superior, based on my surroundings, when everything that's man-made gets removed. The whole package is perfect.
Couldnt have said it better...+1
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its like that age old question:
would u rather be deaf or blind?
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When I stepped out of my house yesterday morning for a run (actually more of a shuffle) I was struck by the immediacy and starkness of the day.
Good thing...I thought you were going to say a cabbie.
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Video vs. Audio

Reverb in a great old forrest is fantastic ....
Blackbirds carry a long distance , riding my bike early in the morning makes me feel I,m in the reverb ...
Almost nothing sounds like that ...

But you can show me some hot girls in jpg ... :-)


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I really couldn't be forced to pick any one of my senses as being superior, based on my surroundings, when everything that's man-made gets removed.

Imagine having sex with your eyes closed. Now imagine having sex without hearing any sounds. Not even your own breathing. Total silence.

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Imagine having sex with your eyes closed. Now imagine having sex without hearing any sounds. Not even your own breathing. Total silence.

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.....sounds like my marriage.


zing.. i'll be here all week, dont forget to tip your waitress.
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Imagine having sex with your eyes closed. Now imagine having sex without hearing any sounds. Not even your own breathing. Total silence.

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Think about it this way, your eye can cover slightly under one octave range of wavelengths. Ever notice how violate at the high end of the spectrum looks like it'll fade into red which is at the bottom? That's why.
Your ears can cover roughly eight octaves.

Your eyes can handle about a maximum of 84dB dynamic range (between what you see as pure white or pure black) in a given environment. The ear can handle more like 120dB.

Eyes have very low static resolution, relying on a combination of memory and constant movements to try and fill in missing details. Your ears catch everything in real time.

In short, your ears are WAY more sensitive instruments than your eyes. Humans in general have very poor vision. If we had the visual acuteness of an Eagle, you'd see all sorts of wonderful detail in things you can't see now.
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I can dig it Joe.

Hiking today out on the Slaughter Creek Park trail:

Visual: big blue sky, giant puffy white cumulus clouds, dense green oak & juniper trees, rich brown earth, off-white limestone rocks.

Aural: a literal symphony of cicadas singing to each other, cooing of the doves, crunch of the crushed granite trail 'neath my shoes, babbling of the creek as I crossed the limestone "bridge", occasional "woohoo" of disc golfers back in the hills, distant sound of cars rushing around on weekend errands, insects buzzing around my head, the light wind whisping through the grass and trees, and the sound of my breath.

A nice relief from a busy week at the studio.

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When I stepped out of my house yesterday morning for a run (actually more of a shuffle) I was struck by the immediacy and starkness of the day.
The contrast between the blue of the sky and the green of the trees was
harsh and distinct. The colors brilliant and bold. As I plodded along I began to notice the sounds.
Birds everywhere. Distant sound of a chainsaw. Even more distant sound of
a jet. The sounds where bouncing everywhere, deep and directional, full
of different textures. Infinitely more interesting.

For me sound beats vision.
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People buy DVD'S not CD's.
When you going to a conference or explained something on a screen, if is not power point is not interesting.
I just SAW the game WC Germany against Uruguay grate game, not way I can fell what I saw by a radio.
Do you play a cd for your kid and he pays attention? or a DVD?

Congratulations Germans ME's.
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Think about it this way, your eye can cover slightly under one octave range of wavelengths. Ever notice how violate at the high end of the spectrum looks like it'll fade into red which is at the bottom? That's why.
Your ears can cover roughly eight octaves.

Your eyes can handle about a maximum of 84dB dynamic range (between what you see as pure white or pure black) in a given environment. The ear can handle more like 120dB.

Eyes have very low static resolution, relying on a combination of memory and constant movements to try and fill in missing details. Your ears catch everything in real time.

In short, your ears are WAY more sensitive instruments than your eyes. Humans in general have very poor vision. If we had the visual acuteness of an Eagle, you'd see all sorts of wonderful detail in things you can't see now.
All true. But no one argues about the merits of HDTV........


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Nah - get out into the countryside and try counting the innumerable shades of green in just one field.

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.....sounds like my marriage.


zing.. i'll be here all week, dont forget to tip your waitress.
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All true. But no one argues about the merits of HDTV
The merits? No argument about that. I will argue that 99.9% of the material being FED to said TVs is standard definition and probably 95% of it is 4:3 aspect ratio, which everybody stretches 25% horrizontally into a dizzied, unwatchable mess. But it covers the whole screen now so that means it MUST be HD, right? Funny you mentioned it, because something like 80% of people with Blu Ray players say they don't notice the difference between that & DVD. I think it's a NIGHT & DAY difference even with my astigmatism & farsightedness. When I put on my glasses, it's an even bigger difference.
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The spectacle of '2001: A Space Odyssey' just wouldn't be the same if its soundtrack theme was 'Follow the Yellow Brick Road' (the two being just one cat. number apart on a batch of CD pressings from EMI Swindon, hence the rather odd faulty disc I have).

And yet our news "services" certainly pay more attention to any given event, to the extent it becomes a "story" if there's video footage of it.

Do more people wear glasses than hearing aids? Perhaps that will change.
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If we had the visual acuteness of an Eagle, you'd see all sorts of wonderful detail in things you can't see now.
We'd also get the 'zoom' function that the Eagle has, I can think of about a thousand uses for that!

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Pretty nice evolution from fish to mankind ... Remember our ears are developed from the kew ( dutch ) kieuwen of the fish ...

Yeah that's million of years before the monkey thing ...

Pretty nice converters from just slight air movements to that wat we call sound in our brain ..


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For myself, when it comes to the opposite sex, sight beats sound hands down.
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For myself, when it comes to the opposite sex, sight beats sound hands down.
Everyone knows that fat chicks have the best phone voices.

(too far?)
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Example of sight over sound with regards to women.
And I was born and raised in Queens NYC.
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Imagine having sex
... Nope ... stumped.

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Example of sight over sound with regards to women.
And I was born and raised in Queens NYC.
Do you know who her boyfriend is?


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The merits? No argument about that. I will argue that 99.9% of the material being FED to said TVs is standard definition and probably 95% of it is 4:3 aspect ratio, which everybody stretches 25% horrizontally into a dizzied, unwatchable mess. But it covers the whole screen now so that means it MUST be HD, right? Funny you mentioned it, because something like 80% of people with Blu Ray players say they don't notice the difference between that & DVD. I think it's a NIGHT & DAY difference even with my astigmatism & farsightedness. When I put on my glasses, it's an even bigger difference.
The average person can certainly tell the difference between HD and regular in a "blind" test. No contest.


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The avereage person can certainly tell the difference between HD and regular in a "blind" test. No contest.
I bought an HD TV last week, for me the difference between DVD and Blu-Ray is very clear. It was something I'd been waiting for since the mid-eighties when I saw a BBC HD demo at a trade fair, a real 'yikes!' moment. Now I just have to hang on until next year for local HD broadcasts.
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I bought an HD TV last week, for me the difference between DVD and Blu-Ray is very clear. It was something I'd been waiting for since the mid-eighties when I saw a BBC HD demo at a trade fair, a real 'yikes!' moment. Now I just have to hang on until next year for local HD broadcasts.
How has hires audio fared in blind tests?


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