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Old 19th June 2010   #1
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Reccomended Program for burning redbook cd (mac)

Title pretty much says it all, I'm looking for suggestions on which program to use to burn a redbook cd master.

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I and a lot of other people around here use Waveburner that comes installed as an aside to Logic.

It's pretty buggy when it comes to processing so you'll want to do that in another program but for sequencing and PQ duties it's pretty awesome. Also allows you to export as a DDP image which is great!
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Current integrated CD mastering software (meaning you can edit the audio and also edit and create the PQ codes in the same app) for Mac that I am aware of are:

Sonic Studio SoundBlade & PMCD - Sonic Studio :: Digital Audio Mastering and Authoring Tools for PCM, DSD&SACD
DSP Quattro - http://www.i3net.it/dspquattro/asp/homepage.asp
Bias Peak - BIAS Peak Pro 6
Audiofile Engineering Wave Editor - Audiofile Engineering - Wave Editor

Steinberg apparently should release Wavelab 7 on OSX sometime soon as well.

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Just use toast.
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Just use toast.
gonna go with that thanks
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Although you can put them in when creating a disc from scratch on an intel mac, Toast won't keep the ISRC codes when copying a CD.
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Although you can put them in when creating a disc from scratch on an intel mac, Toast won't keep the ISRC codes when copying a CD.
Doesn't JAM do ISRCs?
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Doesn't JAM do ISRCs?
Not on any of my macs!
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Doesn't JAM do ISRCs?
it does.
but each version keeps changing the place it hides the option.

somewhere in the prefs, you need to check "advanced mastering features"
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Wave Editor works, and is cheap.

Besides with Wave Editor you do not need to burn that buggy CD-R master: export a DDP folder and send it on a memory stick!
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Wave Editor works, and is cheap.

Besides with Wave Editor you do not need to burn that buggy CD-R master: export a DDP folder and send it on a memory stick!
CD-R masters are not "buggy" - it's a proven technology at this point and pre-testing for CU's and then using "secure" DAE to read the CD-R's data image is s.o.p. at any reputable plant. It's easy to prove this for yourself - simply rip a CD-R image using a decent DAE software that is capable of re-reading sectors when an error flag has been triggered (i.e. Exact Audio Copy) and then do a null test against the original data image it has been burned from. Unless the burning software is "broken" or the CD-R has E32's (which is easy enough to burn a disc these days that has 0 of these) you'll get an absolute 100% null.

Anyway - a very sizable percentage of replicators will not accept DDP on USB flash drive or memory card. Most have very specific input formats (i.e. CD-R, DVD-R, Exabyte, DLT) they will deal with and a lot of them tend to be behind the times in this regard.

Next the vast majority of duplicators (burning CD-R copies instead of glass mastering/pressing CD's) can not accept DDP at all.

Having said that I agree that with many plants uploading a DDP image is a great option over having to ship a physical CD-R master. I've been sending more of these out now that some replicators that are popular with my clients (such as Discmakers) are finally accepting DDP uploads.

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It seems to me that many forget the basic idea of CD-master: getting the data to the replicator as perfectly error free as possible. I do not doubt that this is possible with the right drives, media and burn software, but it still has pitfalls, and also the read at the replicator end must be perfect. As we are basically just talking about a way to transfer data from computer A (master engineer) to computer B (replicator's system), why not use a modern, error free way, like DDP on a USB flash drive or FTP?

I think burning CD-masters is more a fixation of the mind, and people should realize it is NOT the optimum method of doing the data transfer anymore. Master engineers propably like the idea of "making the master CD" which is then copied. Romantic, but not the optimal solution to a practical data transfer problem.

If the replicators do not accept DDP, demand it. It will grow...
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Wave Editor works, and is cheap.

Besides with Wave Editor you do not need to burn that buggy CD-R master: export a DDP folder and send it on a memory stick!
Wave Editor will burn a CD master.

Most plants prefer to make the glass from a CD master over a DDP.

I get asked for DDP one in a hundred!
Maybe less?
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When they master from a CD, is it an audio CD or a CD with data files? If it's data files, what type of files are they...16/44.1 or 24/48, etc?
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