Your ITB dream chain...

[MASSIVE Master]

A) I don't have one.

B) If I did, it wouldn't have a maul-the-band compressor, exciter, or "mastering reverb" (whatever the hell that's supposed to be).


The chain is decided by the mix.

[Red Mastering]

Originally Posted by MASSIVE Master

......... it wouldn't have a maul-the-band compressor, exciter, or "mastering reverb" (whatever the hell that's supposed to be).


The chain is decided by the mix.

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why people think that multiband is a must in mastering ??
when it's not ....

don't get it...

[aleatoric]

Originally Posted by tresperros

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why people think that multiband is a must in mastering ??
when it's not ....

don't get it...

it's been marketed as such for whatever reason.

useful in rare occasions but definitely not a commonly used processor, at least for me and many others.

[jaumepardalito]

A) I don't have one.

B) If I did, it wouldn't have a maul-the-band compressor, exciter, or "mastering reverb" (whatever the hell that's supposed to be).


The chain is decided by the mix.

Sorry if my ignorance is so annoying to you. I'm professional musician, not a mastering professional. I'm only wondering which plugins do you prefer to use in your work. I'm not saying that exists a chain that you ever use. I don't want to make comercial mixings or masters. When I want this results I go to a professional studio.
Thank's for your time.

[alanwes]

Yes, and it had infinite bands like the DSM from Paul Frindle it can be a real problem solver in a mastering environment.

[ciro]

Originally Posted by jaumepardalito

Sorry if my ignorance is so annoying to you. I'm professional musician, not a mastering professional. I'm only wondering which plugins do you prefer to use in your work. I'm not saying that exists a chain that you ever use. I don't want to make comercial mixings or masters. When I want this results I go to a professional studio.
Thank's for your time.

112dB
I´m with the 60 days trial - sounds good!

Ciro

[ciro]

Originally Posted by tresperros

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why people think that multiband is a must in mastering ??
when it's not ....

My guess is that lots of people use multiband like a band aid , kinda softening the huge peaks/nulls and long decay times of monitoring + untreated rooms... (doesn´t works, obviously)

Ciro

[Jesse Graffam]

I basically already have my dream chain, and as was mentioned only the parts needed get inserted at any one time.

Considering almost 50% of the plugins are my own, some of them well good secrets, Imma just go with: No Comment

[Cellotron]

The plugins getting by far the most use here are:
Sonoris EQ2
Voxengo Elephant 3
Sonoris Dither

I have a list of others that I use occasionally as well up on TSM Mastering Equipment

It should be noted that while eq and limiting and requantizing are chores you'll need to do very often in mastering - multiband compression, "exciting" and adding reverb only happens very rarely.

Best regards,
Steve Berson

[MASSIVE Master]

Originally Posted by jaumepardalito

Sorry if my ignorance is so annoying to you. I'm professional musician, not a mastering professional. I'm only wondering which plugins do you prefer to use in your work. I'm not saying that exists a chain that you ever use. I don't want to make comercial mixings or masters. When I want this results I go to a professional studio.
Thank's for your time.

It's still dictated by the mix. Learn what you have - Use what you need.

That all said - When I'm working ITB, I don't often stray from the native Samplitude (V11) stuff. Elephant is nice, maybe a particular couple EQ's if they're needed, mid-side (etc., etc., if necessary)...

I don't pick anything until I'm listening to the mix.

[jaumepardalito]

Ok! thank's.
What do you think about the mastering bundles like Sony Oxford, UAD Mastering Pack, Waves, Nomad's, ....

It's better to buy one complete or you may consider buy separate plugins.
In other words, for a non professional mastering, would be better or easier work with a pack than a mixed brands chain?

(SORRY FOR MY ENGLISH!!!!)
Ah! I forget the Ozone 4... is it the fastest way for illiterate people like me?

[csl]

My ideal plugins:

Refined Audiometrics PLPar EQ - a great LP/MP EQ with a handy interface.
Voxengo Elephant - a very flexible, tweakable limiter

Ideal plugins for getting started:

UAD mastering pack, Ozone.

[Bubbagump]

Originally Posted by jaumepardalito

Ah! I forget the Ozone 4... is it the fastest way for illiterate people like me?

To destroy a mix, perhaps. The problem I have with Ozone for the neophite is the fact it gives you so much control and so many options to essentially turn every processor in it into a M/S and multiband processor. This leads to folks tweaking everything simply because they can.

John's post is very telling. He uses the BUILT IN Samplitude effects. Aka, deal with meat and potatoes issues first. Likely the parametric EQ in your DAW and a decent flexible compressor will get you a long way towards success. ReaComp (even if you don't use Reaper, their native effects are available here: REAPER | ReaPlugs) is one of my favorites to teach folks how to use compression as every parameter is there to be tweaked from the usual suspects to tuning the listening circuit and RMS. All this mastering suite talk from plugin companies is essentially marketing hype IMO.

[Ben F]

Samplitude, in the right hands, would do the job fine.

[diogo_c]

Well, can't really say that I dream about a ITB chain - specially cause I have almost all the plugs I lust for.

EQs = DMG Equality, PSP Neon HR, Flux Epure

Comps = PSP Master Comp, Cytomic The Glue, Elysia mPressor, Softube CL1B

Limiters = PSP Xenon, Voxengo Elephant, Waves L2.

One thing I'd like to have is the UAD Massive Passive as all my EQs are pretty much on the clean side. Besides that, I'm very confortable about working with the above mentioned plugs.

BTW - Can anyone recomend some ITB EQs for color?

[miro]

Originally Posted by diogo_c

Well, can't really say that I dream about a ITB chain - specially cause I have almost all the plugs I lust for.

EQs = DMG Equality, PSP Neon HR, Flux Epure

Comps = PSP Master Comp, Cytomic The Glue, Elysia mPressor, Softube CL1B

Limiters = PSP Xenon, Voxengo Elephant, Waves L2.

One thing I'd like to have is the UAD Massive Passive as all my EQs are pretty much on the clean side. Besides that, I'm very confortable about working with the above mentioned plugs.

BTW - Can anyone recomend some ITB EQs for color?

i don't like to be one of "those" guys, but yes, it's true: Nebula is it!
if you're all set with clean EQ's, it's all you'd need (you'll have massive passive, D.W.Fearn, 1073, API + many more programs for really cheap and more "real" than plugin emulations) it's not just a hype!

(Nebula) Acustica-Audio.com

(Massive Passive etc.) analoginthebox.com - Index

(other great programs) AlexB Nebula Programs by Alessandro Boschi

good luck

[Nescafe]

The chain is depend on the mix material, most of the times the chain below is work for me (ITB):

Brainworx bx_digital v.2
UAD Precision EQ / Chandler TG 12412 / FLUX Epure
UAD Massive Passive
PSP MasterComp
TC Brickwall Limiter

Sincerely....

[mischa janisch]

At the moment I'm only using the Oxford Limiter and the Algorithmix PEQ Red. But I've played with a UAD Massive Passive in our Mixing Room and I've been impressed - I'm sure this could be helpful. As far as compressors go I'd try the Waves API 2500, but I have not heard it in my Mastering Room either. A good De Esser is a must as well - maybe the UAD Precission De Esser?

Multiband is useful for maybe 1 out of 100 Tracks and I've probably used Reverb less than 10 times in my entire career as a ME - if you Mix it yourself ITB you will never need it for Mastering, since it should be a lot easier to adress the problem in the Mix...

[diogo_c]

@ miro: I'm about to give Nebula a proper evaluation, thanks for the tip.

I've just noticed that Slate Digital has released a mastering suite that looks like something to be considered as well. Anyone had the chance to try it?

[Bubbagump]

Originally Posted by diogo_c

Anyone had the chance to try it?

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/new-p...mics-rack.html