Bias peak naming tracks problem

[achaiss]

Hello, i use bias peak pro since few time and I have to use it for editing a CD after mastering an album.

I made a playlist and build it normaly, I gave it a name for the title and for each track title.
Gave the artist name etc... ....

But when I Burn the CD and I open it in iTunes there is no CD title... Just "audio cd". And no tracks titles... Only "audio1, audio2, audio3..."

I don't understand.

Excuse my english.

[dave-G]

*sigh*

No personal offense intended with that sigh, btw .. just that this is such a frequent misunderstanding that I almost wish that a post outlining the differences between CD-Text and CDDB/Gracenote info could be made a sticky... somewhere.

For that matter, maybe like the "where to" subforum, there could be a "stickies" subforum under the Mastering forum where such definitive threads live?

Anyway ... in brief, CD-Text is subcode data embedded on the CD for CD-Text capable CD players. Pop a CD into iTunes however, and it is not referencing that CD-Text data. Rather, it's looking online at CDDB/Gracenote, a 'media recognition' system; a database that Apple subscribes to for iTunes. It's basically using the number of tracks on the CD and their lengths to find the titles in the Gracenote database.

If you want to check if Peak properly embedded the CD-Text, you can try running Terminal (Applications/Utilities/Terminal) with the CD in the computer's internal CD-drive, and type "drutil cdtext" at the prompt. Voila.

-dave

[Cellotron]

Yup - this question comes up with such regularity that I was able to just copy and paste my answer from a similar question that I posted on Brad Blackwood's forum just a few days ago:

What can be embedded into a CD-R master disc is what is known as "CD Text" - which will display in CD Text compatible players (such as many new car players, some hi-fi and pro systems, and some portables) - but this will NOT display in your computers media player software!!

Instead you need to submit your discs info to the various "CDDB's" - online CD databases - which the computer uses to look up the metadata.

iTunes , Lala, Winamp, and the Yahoo Media Engine always refer to Gracenote CDDB for its lookup - Gracenote

General info on how to submit to Gracenote is at
Gracenote: Frequently Asked Questions

Info on how to submit to Gracenote using iTunes is at How to Submit Missing CD Information via iTunes | eHow.com

Microsoft Windows Media Player uses AMG Lasso -
info on how to submit info to this is at
All Music Guide Submission Info

Other databases used by some other various softwares are:
freedb.org > Home
Welcome to MusicBrainz! - MusicBrainz

Anyway - partial blame for this mess definitely goes to the media player software developers for not developing routines that check for metadata embedded as CD Text first before phoning home to see what the CDDB says. Of course it took so long for manufacturers to sort out the CD Text spec that you can't entirely blame them for this.

Best regards,
Steve Berson

[Jerry Tubb]

Originally Posted by dave-G

*sigh*

And I thought we only had to explain this to our clients!

Probably oughta be a sticky?

JT

[achaiss]

Ok...

I apologize, I didn't search "a lot" before, I didn't find anything on so...

Thank you very much for the precisions.

Best regards.

[Jerry Tubb]

Somewhere in the mastering forums there is a Script that someone designed, that actually tells iTunes to retrieve CD-Text from the disc... works pretty well.

Oh Yeah, here it is:

Doug's AppleScripts for iTunes ♫ CD Text to CD Info v1.2

or

Downloading CD Text to CD Info...

Best of luck - JT

[jdwilson]

Okay guys,

Sorry if this has been beaten to the ground with a bat. It probably has.

I recently burned a red book compliant audio cd with Peak. First time using it. I named all the tracks, input artist info, album info and all of that. I had the CD-TEXT option checked in the playlist window. I've tried the disc in multiple cd-text capable players but nothing seems to show. Could it just be player compatibility or could I have missed something along the way?

I understand why CD-TEXT will not show in some computer media players, but wouldn't the disc title still show as the volume name if I chose that option in Peak? Or does everything need to be submitted to Gracenotes first? I figured since I at least named the Album that the information would show when the disc was inserted in the computer...instead of unknown album. Any advice? Sorry...first time doing this.

Thanks,

Jake

[cory-bias]

Neither the track names or the disk name will show up in the Finder on your Mac when it is entered into CD Text using Peak or any other CD authoring program.

The best way to verify that the CD Text is present and correct is using the Terminal on your Mac.

Mac HD/Applications/Utilities/"The Terminal.app"

Once you have opened The Terminal, with the CD inserted, type in

drutil cdtext

It will take a second to read through it all but you will see that it is all there.

I hope this helps.

Cory

[jdwilson]

Originally Posted by cory-bias

Neither the track names or the disk name will show up in the Finder on your Mac when it is entered into CD Text using Peak or any other CD authoring program.

The best way to verify that the CD Text is present and correct is using the Terminal on your Mac.

Mac HD/Applications/Utilities/"The Terminal.app"

Once you have opened The Terminal, with the CD inserted, type in

drutil cdtext

It will take a second to read through it all but you will see that it is all there.

I hope this helps.

Cory

Thanks Cory...

I'll try this. The client is using a PC notebook. Is there a way I can have him check for cd-text on his machine? He's afraid to sign off on it and have us send it to replication since none of the titles are showing.

Thanks,

Jake