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Old 8th October 2009   #1
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I understand how it works but don't know how to fix issues or simply make things sound better in the mastering stage. What are the ways to acheve a more stable correlation responce when mastering?
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I understand how it works but don't know how to fix issues or simply make things sound better in the mastering stage. What are the ways to acheve a more stable correlation responce when mastering?
Check in mono while mixing.


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A) You should be able to hear if there are phase problems without a meter. If you can't, I'd most definitely work on that first.

B) If there are serious phase problems, send them back to the mix engineer.
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Much of the stuff we get in is already badly distorted and it has a lot of weird phase issues. Sending it back for redo is usually out of the question so I have to work with what I get. I have learned how to do a lot with very little and most times I can make the material sound somewhat better using things like RX declipper from izotope and with careful manipulation of the M-S scoundscape to cure really bad problems with phase. I would be nice if people would listen in mono once in a while when they are mixing. A lot of the problems could be solved early on if they would do this one simple thing. Also having a X-Y O'Scope across the 2 buss mix would show up the problems very quickly to the inexperienced engineer (if he or she knew how to interpret the results).

Good topic and timely as I just worked on a Jazz mastering session with the microphone for one of the percussion instruments out of phase with the rest of the set up.
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Thanks for the replys. As I understand the meter cannot be a reference to how well you're fixing (overall) issues while working, best is to find best subjective clarity by ear.

I've read on a different forum that hardware can be helpful for such problems on the mix process (specificly a neve 8816).

I know mr. katz designed the k-stereo but I never had the chance to try it for this matter (and the knock-off freeware of the plug-in doesn't seem to make things better). Though I'm not sure if it's ment to fix such problem.
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Thanks for the replys. As I understand the meter cannot be a reference to how well you're fixing (overall) issues while working, best is to find best subjective clarity by ear.

I've read on a different forum that hardware can be helpful for such problems on the mix process (specificly a neve 8816).

I know mr. katz designed the k-stereo but I never had the chance to try it for this matter (and the knock-off freeware of the plug-in doesn't seem to make things better). Though I'm not sure if it's ment to fix such problem.
What "knock-off freeware" of this patented product exists?

K-stereo is able to enhance depth, dimension and ambience of an existing recording. It can't repair phasing issues, it might even make them worse!
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