A good PlugIn for Dithering but not Limit

[kundevelop]

Any advices about a good plugIn for dithering not in combination with a limiter? just dither. better if vst or directX not PT or UAD.



thanks


faust

[Lagerfeldt]

Sonalksis - Quality Digital Audio Software

One of the variations in this plug-in closely resembles the MegaBit+, if you insist on having a separate dithering plug-in.

[present]

Alternatively, you can bypass all modules in Ozone 4 and just use dither.

[Cellotron]

The Sonoris Dither is excellent and available as VST for both PC and Mac.

Dither - Sonoris Audio Engineering

Best regards,
Steve Berson

[kundevelop]

Originally Posted by present

Alternatively, you can bypass all modules in Ozone 4 and just use dither.

thanks for replies,
I will try Sonoris & Sonalksis. I own ozone 4 so I was thinking about using it but am I wrong or it is not possible to bypass limiter when using dither?
or just set trsh&out to 0db???

cheers

faust

[present]

Originally Posted by kundevelop

thanks for replies,
I will try Sonoris & Sonalksis. I own ozone 4 so I was thinking about using it but am I wrong or it is not possible to bypass limiter when using dither?
or just set trsh&out to 0db???

cheers

faust

You can bypass the limiter. Just set the Loudness Maximizer to inactive. The limiter area on the left
will be greyed out, but the dithering module on the right will still be active.

[Lagerfeldt]

Originally Posted by kundevelop

thanks for replies,
I will try Sonoris & Sonalksis. I own ozone 4 so I was thinking about using it but am I wrong or it is not possible to bypass limiter when using dither?
or just set trsh&out to 0db???

cheers

faust

Remember to do a bit transparency test, i.e. that nothing else is happening to your signal.

[thermos]

Originally Posted by present

You can bypass the limiter. Just set the Loudness Maximizer to inactive. The limiter area on the left
will be greyed out, but the dithering module on the right will still be active.

Yes. I do it all the time.

[kundevelop]

Originally Posted by present

You can bypass the limiter. Just set the Loudness Maximizer to inactive. The limiter area on the left
will be greyed out, but the dithering module on the right will still be active.

yes it works like that...I tested it. I was misleading by the flashing bypass led .
thanks.

Originally Posted by Lagerfeldt

Remember to do a bit transparency test, i.e. that nothing else is happening to your signal.

cheers,
you mean to control that dither is the very final process before saving file to 16bit, right? not even a master volume change...

Originally Posted by thermos

Yes. I do it all the time.

so bypassing all ozone4 sections dither still work! ... maybe user interface is not the best about this issue. but who care?

thanks a lot.

faust
thumbsup

[mattw]

Stillwell makes a dither plug also
Psycho Dither | Stillwell Audio - It's About The Sound

[Lagerfeldt]

Originally Posted by kundevelop

cheers,
you mean to control that dither is the very final process before saving file to 16bit, right? not even a master volume change...

Sometimes you need to completely disable certain parameters or parts of a plug-in/unit, not just set parameters to 0.

An example: a compressor with a soft knee would still compress even though the threshold was set to maximum (off) if the ratio was above 1.

Or even worse: you have disabled something but it's still doing stuff hidden from you.

So be paranoid and do a null test. ;-)

[kundevelop]

Originally Posted by Lagerfeldt

Sometimes you need to completely disable certain parameters or parts of a plug-in/unit, not just set parameters to 0.

An example: a compressor with a soft knee would still compress even though the threshold was set to maximum (off) if the ratio was above 1.

Or even worse: you have disabled something but it's still doing stuff hidden from you.

So be paranoid and do a null test. ;-)

good advice thanx!
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I'll give a try to Stillwell dither too, again thanks.

faust

[Jesse Graffam]

Steinberg used to sell an Apogee UV22HR dithering VST made by Cube-Tec. Not sure what ever happened to it, as I own a few Apogees with it and never needed it. But either way, UV22HR isn't a bad dither to have available when you're seeing what sounds the best (or should i say "the least") with a particular project.

MBit+ is another, and I hope that iZotope decides to offer that as a dither only plugin. I'll buy it.

And of course POW-R 1/2/3

Does anyone know of a good POW-R only plugin?

[Lagerfeldt]

Originally Posted by uncajesse

Does anyone know of a good POW-R only plugin?

No, but it's included in Logic Pro. As is UV22.

[De chromium cob]

Originally Posted by mattw

Stillwell makes a dither plug also
Psycho Dither | Stillwell Audio - It's About The Sound

+1. I like the Psycho Dither

[Jesse Graffam]

Most of the aspects of how Psycho Dither sounds I liked, but... there was something fatiguing TO ME about it, in the high frequencies, at settings where it had an advantage over some other dithers I've heard.

I will certainly try it out again if there are tweaks to reduce whatever was causing that.

[RedTuxedo]

Originally Posted by Lagerfeldt

No, but it's included in Logic Pro. As is UV22.

I thought so, and has probably been right under my nose, but I have not been able to find it as a plug-in.

If it is a plug-in, under what plug-in list does it reside?

Or are you talking about the dither available in the bounce option?

[Lagerfeldt]

Yes, it's available when you bounce.

Logic keeps the audio 32 bit floating point until the very last moment and then renders and applies the dither of your choice when quantizing.

[kundevelop]

Originally Posted by Lagerfeldt

Sonalksis - Quality Digital Audio Software

One of the variations in this plug-in closely resembles the MegaBit+, if you insist on having a separate dithering plug-in.

Thanks for advice me, I tried all above dithering plug-ins. Sonalksis is the one suit my needs.

thanks

faust

[Chris Lago]

So Which dithering is best? (The one that either leaves no sonic footprint or makes a 24bit sound better in 16bits, if that exists!).

I'm currently using the UV22HR, but I'd like to know if there are better dithering plugs out there.

What's the Difference between Apogee, Sonalksis and Sonoris? Is it better to use your AD/DA converter for Dithering or no? I haven't tested the UV22HR on my Mini-Me compared to the plug.

[HomeProducer]

Originally Posted by chrislago

I'm currently using the UV22HR, but I'd like to know if there are better dithering plugs out there.

You may hear it only with VOVOX cables and golden fuses.

Absolutely no point to invest here, there is nothing to improve.
Better buy some diffusors/bass traps/absorbers for your room,
if you don't have it already.