Test and Compare problem

[tmcconnell]

Need a little help from audio cd burning expert.

Never had a problem. Then a new PC. Samplitude when running test and compare almost always shows something like 36000 errors in a test an compare for a cd burn.

Got a new drive, same type. same problem.
Tried 4 kinds of cd media - same problem.
Tried removing effects, dithering prior to write stage. same problem.
Turned off all gain impacting effects and wrote quiet material. same problem.

Moved to a different version of samplitude on different machine w different drive. no problem.

The drive in question is an IOmagic dvd +- r/rw dual format double layer. No driver required or available.

The test and compare function simply reads the disk and compares byte by byte to a cache of what was written.

All CD's sound fine despite reported errors. Any Clues?? I can't exactly ignore the problem when I am making cd's for duplication. Samplitude "support" is clueless or nonresponsive or both.

[MASSIVE Master]

Are you burning "on the fly" or generating a new file...?

If the former, try the latter.

[Virtalahde]

I use Samp's own tester too, and while it's OK for a quick-n-dirty check, it's not reliable. I have once found a C2 with Plextools that the Samplitude missed. That's why I check with both..

Sounds like burning on the fly to me, too.

[jamesp]

Chances are your drive has problems doing accurate audio extraction - as a bare minimum you need a drive that can flag C2 errors so that the software knows that there is a problem. You also need to use a drive that has a predictable offset when writing and reading audio - otherwise you could simply be seeing the result of the wrong (or no) offset correction.

Cheers

James.

[tmcconnell]

I was burning on the fly but tried making an entire file and that had the same issue. I am now thinking it has something to do with that drive on that machine + offset reading. Does anyone have a drive suggestion? (I see several posts with suggestions but, knowing the issue I have, perhaps you have a different suggestion.) Thanks a bunch. t.

[jamesp]

Originally Posted by tmcconnell

Does anyone have a drive suggestion?

The Plextor Premium2 is the closest that you will get to a drive specifically designed for audio mastering. It is still available through Amazon in Europe although it is harder to find in North America for some reason.

Cheeers

James.

[Sunbreak Music]

Samplitude (and Sequoia) only perform a data integrity check, and I've also found that it doesn't work with some drives. Bitched about it on the forum a few times....no real response.

Burn errors have to be detected with another program (disc speed, plextools), so these are two different issues.

My guess is that Nero will perform a null test just fine with that drive, and it's indeed a Magix issue.

[tmcconnell]

Bought a different brand of drive (Pioneer). This was Sata not ide. All problems went away. It was either a read offfset issue with the IO magic drive, as theorized here, or something to do with an old ide bus on a very modern backplane. So, thanks gearslutz. btw I tried to find someone selling the plextor drive and it was very difficult. ted.