Low end filter for mastering?

[U-47bis]

Hi there, this is my first post here. Im from Buenos Aires, Argentina.
Im in the mastering part of my second record (mixed by my self at home using Nuendo3).
In the last record I made I followed the advise of mastering engineers who aclaim that low end must be cutted arround 50Hz becouse nobody will hear it in a consumer audio equipment but...
Now I started with the bass guitar filtered at 50Hz (as usual) but later removed that filter and suddenly life came to my song.
The question is:
This effect will be sense only by myself?
Im using Tannoy system600 monitors powered by a Luxman LV-105 valve amplifier and polk 10" powered subwoofer.

[alcopop]

There is no rule that says you have to cut a 50 hz that's nonsense.
Some ME's cut at 30Hz as standard practice , that to me is also nonsense as what goes on below can have and impact on what happens in the more audible areas of the spectrum. You have to always use your ears to make the judgement. At the end of the day if the track benefits from a filter at 30 or 50 hz then so be it but never resort to what someone else defines as standard practice without letting your ears verify it first .

[psykostx]

Originally Posted by U-47bis

powered by a Luxman LV-105 valve amplifier and polk 10" powered subwoofer.

I love that amp! The tubes are for the EQ though, not the gain. Doesn't classic rock sound SOOOO good on it?! Zepplin, Floyd, Crimson, even 90's alt rock. Alice in Chains, STP, NIN, Tool. And for electronic music its the greatest ever! Not really so much techno, but ambient electronica...Blade Runner soundtrack! BOOOOOB MOOOOOOOG

[U-47bis]

Thank you all for your answering.
alcopop: It is not a rule but a an experts advise and the goal for doing this is to make room in order to add some dBs to the final cut and I think they are right about this becouse each time you boost a frequency range you'll have to low the overall volume becouse you will be clipping or adding some distortion.
What I did last night is to cut at 25Hz and no effect was noted so I think this is OK to me.

psykostx: Im prety in love with this amp. the sound is beatifull and plaesant and is a good gear to work with becose you never get audition fatigue. The tubes are not for the eq, this amplifier is an hybrid amp and is part of the gain section, in deed this amp is a twin-triode vacuum tubes (6cg7a) in the driver stage and the power output is delivered by high-current mos-fet transistors....In the end this is a standard class AB amp sweetened by the harmonics of a pair of 6cg7a. (cheap and beatifull) and the frequency response goes from 1Hz to 150 KHz (my ears dont).

[macc]

Originally Posted by U-47bis

What I did last night is to cut at 25Hz and no effect was noted so I think this is OK to me.

That's not always the case though. Just thought I'd mention that.

[popruff]

There are always going to be guide lines to adhere to but all people, equipment, daws and rooms are different..thankfully! So just trust your ears you know when something sounds wrong or right. If you cant get into catering.

Elliot
PopRuff Mastering - Online UK Mastering Studio And Audio Services

[U-47bis]

What about waves maxbass..is that good? I think is better to eqing bass guitar and kick in the mix rather than adding bassboost at the mastering but it is just a thought, I never use it. What do you think?
Reading your answers I already know what you are going to say...if it sounds good to you is OK. but I am here just looking for an advise based upon experiences you have done (later I will do what I think is best for me).
I have compared it with a commercial cd and found that my project sounds prety decent now with this filter off but I feel a lack of highs but is a high I can not reach just boosting 15, 18 or 20khz, is another thing is that crispness (i dont know how to explain) that I think comes from a real good tube procesor or so applyed in a good mastering facility.

[macc]

Originally Posted by U-47bis

What about waves maxbass..is that good? I think is better to eqing bass guitar and kick in the mix rather than adding bassboost at the mastering but it is just a thought, I never use it. What do you think?

There were two threads about this very thing in the last week or so

[Piedpiper]

Another way to look at this is to do you high pass filtering on the individual tracks, or not, tailored to their specific needs, or better yet in the tracking if you can effectively anticipate the requirements of the mix.

[Swell]

30Hz...25Hz...I think it's important to establishe what's the fondamental note of the kik or bass or whatever take attention in the low-end.
Then if you have analyse, by ear or by visualisation, that the note is at 50Hz for exemple, then you should not cut at 35Hz, because you would miss the opportunity to benefit of the lowest "interesting" octave which will be at 25Hz.
But again, nothing says that you will HAVE TO cut. But I would say most of the time I hear benefit in doing so. It will also depends on the slope of your HP filter. I personnaly often use Nugen SEQ master for that purpose.

Best.

Swell