Speaker processing suggestions please

[DominicWyeth]

I have been offered some three way monitors but I need to do crossover and tri amp them myself.

Anyone got any suggestions for a crossover and amp config for mastering. I am thinking bryston 10b Pro.

Any suggestions or current set-ups would be greatly appreciated.

[bob katz]

Originally Posted by DominicWyeth

I have been offered some three way monitors but I need to do crossover and tri amp them myself.

Anyone got any suggestions for a crossover and amp config for mastering. I am thinking bryston 10b Pro.

Any suggestions or current set-ups would be greatly appreciated.

BSS makes an excellent fully-programmable digital crossover if that will help.

[DominicWyeth]

thanks looks good - BSS AudioFDS-366T

[Darius van H]

For amps, try Hypex Electronics B.V.


great amps

[pmx]

bss is very good, xta too. you could try finding a second hand omnidrive 366 (2 in 6 out) or xta 226 (also 2 in 6 out). nice machines! you can't go wrong combined with a hypex design.

[Jesse Graffam]

Personally I would do it all "in the box" if I had the choice, and output from my Rosetta 800.

But otherwise I might consider one of these, the "DriveRack" range...
dbx® Professional Products

Ignoring the marketing hype... the BSS unit looks interesting, and I would love to hear one some day up against a more well-known unit.

[trance addict]

I'd get a dolby lake or an xta. Bss isn't on the same level in my opinion.

[bob katz]

Originally Posted by trance addict

I'd get a dolby lake or an xta. Bss isn't on the same level in my opinion.

Not having used the Lake or the XTA I cannot say for sure, but I have been distinctly impressed with the sound quality and performance of the BSS product. Is it as transparent as a state of the art analog active (or passive) crossover? Decidedly not. I wouldn't use it on the mains (satellites) in a mastering situation, because it adds another D/A/D conversion, which is not perfectly transparent, to the chain and impairs your finest judgment. But this is the case with any digital crossover and I have yet to hear a conversion path that is "perfectly transparent", though above 192 kHz I found the Digital Audio Denmark in an A/D/A comparison to be audibly indistinguishable from an analog tape source I was using in a test. But is Dolby (or BSS for that matter) using a "Digital Audio Denmark" grade of converter for their crossover?

For a mixing room, I would recommend the BSS crossover on a set of monitors in a heartbeat. I've listened critically and exhaustively to a state-of-the-art pair of custom-built speakers at a local studio, that used the BSS crossover, using my own high end musical material and other material as sources, and I was very impressed. They're certainly as good as any high end mixing loudspeaker I've heard, clean, dynamic, good imaging...

BK

[DominicWyeth]

I have been looking at this as well - but it seems that it may end up costing me more than getting another set of speakers anyway - considering I need a 2 in 8 out system to run the mains and my dual subs... anyone know the lotto numbers for this week?

DEQX HDP-3 Preamp Processor

[turtlerock]

stand in line dom !
when i solve this puzzle you will be the first to know !

the dolby stuff for this application is execellent there is a set of boxes here ( well next door ) , although dolby they have moved the idea on to another company already .
but their converters are excellent ( bruce jackson was in charge of the development of the boxes )

if you can solder their is an excellent DIY analog active system i can connect you to .
but i cannot find the link right now ( esp elliot sound...?)

i have a line on a custom set of dex systems without converters, ie aes in and out
which would prove very interesting with the right convertors but which converters ..?
( i would need 4 stereo ones )
there is always something isnt there?
either way an active system has so many advantages , you cannot ignore just them
just try something i think.
the brystons are what pmc uses , so i am sure they are excellent

[KRStudio]

I would NOT recomend the DBX stuff. I went from DBX to BSS and there was a big diff.

[DominicWyeth]

Originally Posted by turtlerock

if you can solder their is an excellent DIY analog active system i can connect you to .
but i cannot find the link right now ( esp elliot sound...?)

sounds good let me know

Originally Posted by turtlerock

i have a line on a custom set of dex systems without converters, ie aes in and out
which would prove very interesting with the right convertors but which converters ..?
( i would need 4 stereo ones )

just saw bill barsby yesterday about benchamrk - what about some dacs?

Originally Posted by turtlerock

there is always something isnt there?
either way an active system has so many advantages , you cannot ignore just them
just try something i think.
the brystons are what pmc uses , so i am sure they are excellent

I was going to go for the brystons if I could find a cross over to do it for me - maybe ITB crossovers but that mean buying more convertors.....hmm back the drawing board on this me thinks.

[24-96 Mastering]

+1 for XTA xover / controller (to be fair, I should say that last time I compared against BSS Omnidrive is a few years back).

[pmx]

on the matter of conversion: the lake ad conv is very good, and the xta's are very nice. you can go for aes only versions though, and use an 8ch da after the crossovers.

a lake would look insanely cool in your rack! :D

[roostert]

I use a lake processor in my mix room. It is amazing. I've got experience using BSS & XTA along with pretty much any other system on the market, and I chose to find a used Lake controller. It's software is a little tricky at first, but the results are absolutely amazing. If you are SMAART savy, you can really get the most out of this box, as it overlays what SMAART is reading with whatever edit page you're working on in the Lake. The key is getting all of the drivers time aligned, which you're not going to get done by ear. It's amazing how a very tiny, tiny delay to one or two drivers can clean up all of the smeared distortion you don't know is there. The converters on the Lake are extremely transparent....The best built box by far...They weren't cheap when they were new.....$7000-$8000? I picked up mine for $800. It runs at 24/96, all the time. For what I gain in alignment, driver eq, etc...., the extra step of conversion is quite a small compromise. Oh and by the way, if you want new, the technology now belongs to LabGruppen. They bought out Dolby/Lake, who bought out Lake before that.

Good luck!