Setting up M/S in Protools?

Joemamma · 13th July 2009

Hey guys,

I've worked with M/S on the TC6000 with both the EQ and multiband comp.

Is there a way of doing this in Protools so I can use any plug-in I want on the mono and stereo signal?
I hope you get my question.
It must have something to do with phase, but I haven't figured out how to set it up. Is it possible?

Thanks in advance!

Assistant · 13th July 2009

if i understand you correctly, you´ll need something like this:

http://www.smassey.com/download/Mass....5.3_r1932.zip

there´s a free ms tool in this bundle which you can use together with multi-mono plugins, so your left channel is processing mid and right is for side signal, you just have to unlink them to dual mono.

andersmv · 14th July 2009

Or you can just create 3 tracks, pan the side channels L and R and put one out of phase, and then bus all that to a stereo AUX track and throw the plugins on the AUX track...

masteringhouse · 14th July 2009

See:

MID-SIDE PROCESSING .

Joemamma · 14th July 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by masteringhouse

See:

MID-SIDE PROCESSING .

Cool, I'll check that out when I have time!

danika · 15th July 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joemamma

Hey guys,

I've worked with M/S on the TC6000 with both the EQ and multiband comp.

Is there a way of doing this in Protools so I can use any plug-in I want on the mono and stereo signal?
I hope you get my question.
It must have something to do with phase, but I haven't figured out how to set it up. Is it possible?

Thanks in advance!

You can also use the Voxengo freebie MSED plug-in (if you have a VST-RTAS converter).

Franco · 15th July 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by masteringhouse

See:

MID-SIDE PROCESSING .

Thank you for this, I found this a couple of years ago and used your template to set up a matrix in PT that I've since customized for my purposes.

masteringhouse · 16th July 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franco

Thank you for this, I found this a couple of years ago and used your template to set up a matrix in PT that I've since customized for my purposes.

Cool, what were your changes?

Franco · 16th July 2009

I added a UAD 88RS to the Mid & Side channels, added another aux track for a Dimension D and set up sends to it from the M/S channels (set to 0 and adjust the level of the send as needed). I have the Dimension D set very about 1/2 way to 0, so it's subtle. Last time I used this setup was for a mix where the vocals sounded very narrow and they had some "creative" things happening with cymbals on the side channel, so I was able to apply the DimD on the mid channel and make the vocals sound a little more interesting.

13th July 2009	#1
Joemamma Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 666 Thread Starter	Setting up M/S in Protools? Hey guys, I've worked with M/S on the TC6000 with both the EQ and multiband comp. Is there a way of doing this in Protools so I can use any plug-in I want on the mono and stereo signal? I hope you get my question. It must have something to do with phase, but I haven't figured out how to set it up. Is it possible? Thanks in advance! __________________ HighHouse http://highhousemusic.blogspot.com (Blog on sound, music, etc.)

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Assistant Gear nut Joined: Jun 2006 Location: Berlin Posts: 124	if i understand you correctly, you´ll need something like this: http://www.smassey.com/download/Mass....5.3_r1932.zip there´s a free ms tool in this bundle which you can use together with multi-mono plugins, so your left channel is processing mid and right is for side signal, you just have to unlink them to dual mono. __________________ http://nilsfallermastering.virb.com

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andersmv Lives for gear Joined: Dec 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 1,220	Or you can just create 3 tracks, pan the side channels L and R and put one out of phase, and then bus all that to a stereo AUX track and throw the plugins on the AUX track...

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Franco Lives for gear Joined: Jun 2006 Location: Not working on music, which is were I SHOULD be. Posts: 1,190 Verified Member	I added a UAD 88RS to the Mid & Side channels, added another aux track for a Dimension D and set up sends to it from the M/S channels (set to 0 and adjust the level of the send as needed). I have the Dimension D set very about 1/2 way to 0, so it's subtle. Last time I used this setup was for a mix where the vocals sounded very narrow and they had some "creative" things happening with cymbals on the side channel, so I was able to apply the DimD on the mid channel and make the vocals sound a little more interesting.