Tritone Digital becoming native?

[lerone]

Does anyone know whats going on with Tritone digital at the minute? I see from their site that they're switching to native as max/msp are no longer developing anymore , but they don't specify when. A native, stable version of Angeltone would be quite nice.....

[rhizomeman]

This was a heated debate/argument over at cycling74 max/msp forum.

After the upgrade to Max 5 (which is SO much better than max 4), pluggo no longer worked. About a week or two ago cycling74 announced they were disconinuing pluggo support, meaning 3rd parties could no longer code using max/msp and sell to individuals using free runtime (I think).

Anyway, as you know Tritone Digital is coded using max/msp so that kind of messed them up. Not sure when they are going to switch, but it's kind of ironic as I was just about to purchase some of their plugs, which I think sounds great. Went to their site and saw the homepage .

Cycling74 is really focusing their efforts right now on Max for Live, which is an integrated max/msp within the Live interface. I'm looking forward since I use both programs. Lots of heated debate over this at the max/msp forums as well.

[lerone]

Originally Posted by rhizomeman

This was a heated debate/argument over at cycling74 max/msp forum.

After the upgrade to Max 5 (which is SO much better than max 4), pluggo no longer worked. About a week or two ago cycling74 announced they were disconinuing pluggo support, meaning 3rd parties could no longer code using max/msp and sell to individuals using free runtime (I think).

Anyway, as you know Tritone Digital is coded using max/msp so that kind of messed them up. Not sure when they are going to switch, but it's kind of ironic as I was just about to purchase some of their plugs, which I think sounds great. Went to their site and saw the homepage .

Cycling74 is really focusing their efforts right now on Max for Live, which is an integrated max/msp within the Live interface. I'm looking forward since I use both programs. Lots of heated debate over this at the max/msp forums as well.

Cheers for that. I really hope Angeltone does get a revamp, it does sound absolutely brilliant for soft eq.

[4damind]

Yes, they go native. That is the answer from Salvator from TritoneDigital to the question about the future.

But you know, TritoneDigital is very slow with their development. The Sqeezetone plugin is not ready since years and most of their plugins have updates only rarely every 1-2 years.

I have not much hope that all their plugins become native in a short time.

[droogs]

but i dont understand why people need tritone digital plugins in 2009?
there are so much better freeware stuff out there than every tritone plugtutt

[rhizomeman]

Originally Posted by droogs

but i dont understand why people need tritone digital plugins in 2009?
there are so much better freeware stuff out there than every tritone plugtutt

Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

which ones specifically...???

[lobsterinn]

Originally Posted by droogs

but i dont understand why people need tritone digital plugins in 2009?
there are so much better freeware stuff out there than every tritone plugtutt

really?

[indie]

Tritone plugs are amazing.

[rhizomeman]

Originally Posted by droogs

but i dont understand why people need tritone digital plugins in 2009?
there are so much better freeware stuff out there than every tritone plugtutt

Still waiting droogs. Don't talk shit about a product saying there's better, without being able to back it up.

WHICH FREE PLUGINS DO YOU THINK SOUND BETTER?????????

seriously I want to know

[Chaellus]

highly doubt it...these things are better than waves V series in my opinion which is really good btw, id have to rank these plugs the best of the best with a few others....not that many plugins get that rating for me.

[Toro]

Originally Posted by Chaellus

highly doubt it...these things are better than waves V series in my opinion which is really good btw, id have to rank these plugs the best of the best with a few others....not that many plugins get that rating for me.

+ 1

I got a question i love tritone i use is their plug ins, but, i haven't upgraded my plug ins, every time i did so pluggo acted really weird, so i decided not to touch them, they sound good just how they are, version (5.1 i believe) so question? If i don't upgrade my plugs how can this affect me? it my be obvious but i never understood pluggo at all.

[droogs]

really?

yes, 4 example this:
BOOTSY AIO
Downloads « Variety Of Sound

[lerone]

Yeah, seriously, Tritone make some of the best at ANY price, and some of the few bits of software that I actually use. The secret is to use your ears, not your eyes.

[lerone]

Originally Posted by droogs

but i dont understand why people need tritone digital plugins in 2009?
there are so much better freeware stuff out there than every tritone plugtutt

Sorry but.....MUPPET

[donsolo]

"All Plug-Ins are PC only and a VST compatible host and SSE compatible CPU is required.

The current version of BootEQ supports only 44.1 and 48kHz samplerate."

Fail.

[Jesse Graffam]

Wow, Max stopped supporting Pluggo, that's crazy. I can so totally see how that would make people uber-raged. I mean... I have several friends across the globe that went to school for 2+ years *JUST* to learn Max from A to Z.

But I have to admit that Max being sort-of integrated with Live is amazing. I've used it myself, and I really like it. I stopped using Max back in 1998-ish because I kind of got sick of it impeding on my creativity, because it takes a LONG time to do anything in it, which also forces you to build "bones" a lot to save time, which can also make the creation process get stale.

I switched to Buzz about that time, but even given the recent developments by Oskari, Buzz will probably always be behind the times now as far as quality an innovation are concerned. I guess we'll see, but I'm not waiting around for that to happen.

Live is the band-wagon to be on.

Defninitely sucks for Pluggo getting canceled. I wonder if Live/Max even has ANYTHING AT ALL to do with that though?


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Oh, and about Bootsy... you guys REALLY have to try out the TesslaPRO. I'm still flabbergasted by how amazing that thing sounds every time I patch it in and turn the knobs.

As a quick tip, a lot of the time I find I'm putting the "transients" knob at about 1:30 o-clock :-P then adjusting the drive so it's right under the point of taking away the clarity gained by moving the transients knob up from 12. If that makes any sense, I don't know.

However.... my huge beef with the plugins (as if i'm allowed to have one, since they are free) is that they take FOREVER to load and use up all of the CPU while they are loading. ESPECIALLY if there's audio going through the chain at the time.
[/edit]

[Nahuel]

Originally Posted by droogs

yes, 4 example this:
BOOTSY AIO
Downloads « Variety Of Sound

Boostsy stuff is ok for free plugins but are not even close to tritone stuff. Bootsy colors/saturations are rather subtile compared to what you get from hydratone or colortone.

[lerone]

Originally Posted by droogs

yes, 4 example this:
BOOTSY AIO
Downloads « Variety Of Sound

Downloaded it, tried it, compared it; conclusion........you need to develop your listening skills. I can't believe someone seriously suggested this for serious mastering work . WTF?!

[daverich]

I imagine nebula would be a good replacement.

Kind regards

Dave Rich

[JPeters86]

Yeah the TriTone stuff is brilliant. I remember having huge CPU issues when the first versions were released. They seemed to have sorted that out, but with the Pluggo thing they're still more CPU intensive than most native stuff. I really like them though, especially HydraTone and AngelTone. The HydraTone can really 'shape' your sound in such a good way.

[veucasa]

Sometimes bad things have to happen for change. Tritone stuff is really nice and I use their plugs on every single track I do, but it's time for them to up their game. Using Pluggo was a bad choice from the get go and we all know it.

I think they now have enough of a fan base that they can spend the time and money to go native. One reason I've used PSP and OhmForce over the years if their stuff works, and always works well, for the most part.

If they could go native and fix some of their interface designs, I would be more than happy to pay an upgrade fee.

Tritone, partner up with OhmForce and get something done. They don't have any products like this!

[4damind]

TritoneDigital is ok, but this static convolution is a bit outdated. So its not only to have native plugins, they should also look to some improvements.

Would be better they get a license of Nebula (I think their is something planned to have this kernelmodul/lib also for other products available). This would be huge improvement and the right direction for the future.

[Beto_larski]

Nothing i heard in the plugin domain comes close to the saturation and the phase twist found in hydratone.

[bmanic]

Originally Posted by lpuma

Boostsy stuff is ok for free plugins but are not even close to tritone stuff. Bootsy colors/saturations are rather subtile compared to what you get from hydratone or colortone.

Yes but it's more accurate, at least in my opinion. High-end is very rarely anything BUT subtle, unless you abuse it. Behringer tube gear is not subtle at all. Does that make it better than a D.W. Fearn? I think not.

Tritone digital was riding the hype bandwagon a long time. It's time to kill it. There's nothing wrong with liking the plugins, they are excellent (and I even own some of them) but don't start dismissing the bootsie plugins just because they are free or subtle.

Cheers!
bManic

[bmanic]

Originally Posted by Beto_larski

Nothing i heard in the plugin domain comes close to the saturation and the phase twist found in hydratone.

Time for you to visit

Acusticaudio

and

analoginthebox.com - Index

and

AlexB Nebula Libraries by Alessandro Boschi


Times have changed.. a lot!

Cheers!
bManic

[bmanic]

Originally Posted by lerone

Downloaded it, tried it, compared it; conclusion........you need to develop your listening skills. I can't believe someone seriously suggested this for serious mastering work . WTF?!

Bootsie for serious mastering? No, I wouldn't recommend it, except perhaps the new "Ferric" plugin if you run the input at -20 to -30dBFS and are looking for some rather non-subtle tonal changes..

..but Tritone plugins for mastering as well? No way.. those static impulses can do quite a bit of harm unless you are very careful.

And colortone for mastering? You must be nuts.

Cheers!

[4damind]

Originally Posted by Beto_larski

Nothing i heard in the plugin domain comes close to the saturation and the phase twist found in hydratone.

Hydratone with this static convolution is not more then a "EQ template". This was a good idea some years ago but today we have better solutions like Nebula.
Most people get this "wow" effect with Hydratone when using the "fire" knob. I remember myself that this was one argument to buy this EQ

TritoneDigital has lost his customers long time ago. Mainly because of the bad support new ideas/ loooong update cycles and for many users because of the problems with the Pluggo runtime.

[beanface]

I think angeltone still sounds really nice. Hopefully if ttd ever get round to updating their plugs, they will use dynamic convolution and implement input / output modelling etc. Angeltone is the only plug from them I'm interested in though nowadays.

[OMU]

Originally Posted by bmanic

Bootsie for serious mastering? No, I wouldn't recommend it, except perhaps the new "Ferric" plugin if you run the input at -20 to -30dBFS and are looking for some rather non-subtle tonal changes..

..but Tritone plugins for mastering as well? No way.. those static impulses can do quite a bit of harm unless you are very careful.

And colortone for mastering? You must be nuts.

Cheers!

I frequently use Angeltone for mastering and it always gets the job done. I had this summer two first place hits that stayed for months here, in the Romanian charts, so I'm not the typical bedroom hobbyst.

Give me something better that runs on a mac and I will happily try it. Until then, Angeltone will stay here.

[Beto_larski]

Originally Posted by bmanic

Time for you to visit

Acusticaudio

and

analoginthebox.com - Index

and

AlexB Nebula Libraries by Alessandro Boschi


Times have changed.. a lot!

Cheers!
bManic

Im aware of nebula and its advantages. Thanks for the links, i din't know those Alessandro Boschi patches. Althought i still think the phase twist and saturation on hydratone are amongst the best ones... But lets not start another discussion around our personal tastes, huh?
Thanks for the links, i will be checking that ones very soon!

PS: The ferric from Bootsy is really a killer plugin. Indeed its has some appeal! He got my vote!