Flux Plugins, Really Nice

[neilwilkes]

Originally Posted by aleatoric

You could say the same about a lot of gear, some people spend just that on cables in there studio. Other people spend $7,000 on an external word clock. I really don't think it is that crazy to spend that much on some really high quality plugins, sure it would be nice if the price dropped a bit but the developers who pour themselves into these things need to get paid. Hell the Prism Dream A/D-2 costs over 9 grand and most people listening at home could probably not pick out the differences between a track mastered with it and a track mastered with say the Benchmark ADC-1. The cost difference between those two units is nearly 8 grand and people will gladly pay it because they want the Prism sound. $700 on some terrific sounding plugins is really not that outlandish when you put it into perspective.

That's a great way of looking at this - I've often wondered about the way so many people will baulk at paying for a decent plugin.
Only just found out about this set of tools, and have been hearing some good things - plus they are surround capable too.....

[Nahuel]

I just bought the epure and the purecomp (for mixing), epure is great, it just lack a solo band function a la mdw... still the best vst eq I've heard so far. I bought the pure comp cause I've been A/Bing it vs rvox, it does the same thing but better (voice preset) and a lot more.

[ThatSoundsWHAMMY]

I've been using these plug-ins for a while how and I absolutely adore them.
Never had any instabilities with them.
Quite pricey but you really do get what you pay for.

The Epure gets the most use in m/s mode. It does what it does (nothing special there) but tastefully, and it's interface really makes it a pleasure to use.

The Solera comp is an insane little thing. Takes a long time to get to grips with the unit but the effort is so worth it. It's actually my only software compressor and I'm completely happy with that.

The Alchemist is awesome as a de-esser. I suppose it's a bit waisted as a de-esser considering what it is capable of but hey, works for me. Other that ironing out those problematic mixes I don't really use this unit.
It's more of a restraint thing however. I'm just scared that I'll go one step too far with a multiband. It's easier just to say no.

The Pure Limiter is great but I just prefer the Voxengo Elephant. That being said the Flux limiter is way more versatile and sometimes it's the only option for a mix. The HPF and dynamic profile are amazing additions to a limiter.

While I'm here, did anyone hear about the new Syrah unit from flux?
Natural, rich, tender and vibrant. Don't hear the word tender to describe audio...
...must be good!

[Felix (Flux)]

Lots of love coming towards us in this thread!

Syrah is now in beta, and hopefully there will be some more information to release as soon as we see what direction the testing takes...



Cheers,
/Felix

[swaff]

Originally Posted by Felix (Flux)

Lots of love coming towards us in this thread!

Syrah is now in beta, and hopefully there will be some more information to release as soon as we see what direction the testing takes...



Cheers,
/Felix

Any thoughts of another 40% off sale, Felix? I missed this one that just passed, but I'd love to jump on the plugs if another sale comes around.

Swaff

[Felix (Flux)]

Originally Posted by swaff

Any thoughts of another 40% off sale, Felix? I missed this one that just passed, but I'd love to jump on the plugs if another sale comes around.

Swaff

Well, probably there wont be anything in that magnitude in a looong time...

Cheers,
/felix

[aleatoric]

Hey Felix,

Can you tell us is Syrah is a mastering grade compressor or is it more designed for mixing?

[swaff]

Originally Posted by Felix (Flux)

Well, probably there wont be anything in that magnitude in a looong time...

Cheers,
/felix

Thank you for the info. I will have to go with some other options for now.

Best,

Swaff

[Felix (Flux)]

Originally Posted by swaff

Thank you for the info. I will have to go with some other options for now.

Best,

Swaff

Keep your eyes open, new stuff on it's way.....




Cheers,
/Felix

[Snabbit]

hey guys,

first up I must say Epure2 is my favourite go-to software eq other than some vintage emus like the waves classics. Epure has a particular presence in the highs that definitely beat the sonnox eq to my ears and everything else I've thrown against it.
I've tried the limiter on various things but haven't managed to get it brickwalling the sound like the L2 or sonnox limiter does. The results I've had with it are more like a compressor where it actually pulls everything down relative and you can hear it doing this, as opposed to the constant level crunch of the L2/Sonnox. If you guys have got the Flux limiter to brickwall stuff properly I would really love to know what settings you used.
Solera is a great processor, which I have studied quite a lot, and managed to get some good stuff out of it. In terms of final mastering, I haven't got the sound I was after yet (the brickwall maximiser sound), but on individual elements like the drum buss it can add great punch and presence. The only thing thats annoying is the auto delay option as it appears to bypass nuendos plugin delay compensation so I always have to turn it to zero. Ok for a mastering chain possibly, but not when on individual mix elements.

I have a extremely frustrating bug with the group matrix on Epure 2 and was wondering if any other Flux users have encountered it. When I change the yellow block for the channel allocation to a second group, the group number above it always randomly moves to another group number either side of it that I am not using. This means that when I get out of the setup page, only one of the channels can be equalised, while the second channel is always assigned to a group that is not selected. Once this problem has begun by expanding the group number, I can't easily get both channels back onto a single group and therefore have to completely reload the plugin. I am using Nuendo 4.2.2.274 on Windows XP. Unfortunately this make the mutichannel use of Epure2 totally unusable.

Any help you guys can give me would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Erin

[Lagerfeldt]

Do you have the newest version of the Epure II?

[zenmastering]

I have the same problem running E-Pure on Pyramix. It also kills M/S usage...

The problem only began recently.

Graemme

[Snabbit]

Thanks for your replies

Originally Posted by Lagerfeldt

Do you have the newest version of the Epure II?

Yeah I have the latest version installed, I just ran the update checker to be sure

Originally Posted by zenmastering

I have the same problem running E-Pure on Pyramix. It also kills M/S usage...

The problem only began recently.

Interesting... it seems this problem isn't just contained to Nuendo then. I only just tried using the group matrix since the latest version as I required it for a project I was working on, so I had no reference on whether it had worked in the past. I've been trying to get onto Flux support for the last 2 weeks but haven't had any replies. Have you had any luck getting through Graemme?

Another problem I'm having and was wondering if any other users are experiencing it...

I am also running Nuendo 4.2.2.274 (32bit version) on Windows XP x64. This is so that I can access more RAM for Vienna Ensemble which cleverly allows you to use its 64bit version in 32bit Nuendo. I have installed all my plugins as 32bit including the waves classic (which run off the same Ilok as my Flux plugins) and all of them run fine except for the Flux. The initial problem was that the Flux installer would not allow me to install into Windows x64 as it was not as recent as Vista (which I don't want to go near for mixing and music making). Gael from Flux sent through a new installer that let me install the plugins. They installed, but are all greyed out and don't allow me to use any parameters. The strange thing is that all the Flux demo versions of the same plugins work fine. I am thinking it may be that the installer has automatically installed the 64bit versions of the plugins, whereas I want to install the 32bit versions. Do you guys know if there is any way choose what versions you actually install?

Thanks

Erin

[Felix (Flux)]

Originally Posted by swaff

Any thoughts of another 40% off sale, Felix? I missed this one that just passed, but I'd love to jump on the plugs if another sale comes around.

Swaff

Check out or new bundle, Recording Pack, all of our pure series plugins, plus the Epure II EQ, all at a fairly discounted bundle price AND as an introduction offer during a limited time, on top of that, a 25% discount on the bundle price...

Flux:: Sound and Picture development

Flux:: Recording Pack Bundle


Could that maybe be of interest?




Cheers,
/Felix

[zenmastering]

Hi Erin,

I've just loaded the latest beta version and the setup matrix problem is now fixed. This beta was only uploaded today and I have no idea when it is intended to be released.

Best,

Graemme

Originally Posted by Snabbit

Interesting... it seems this problem isn't just contained to Nuendo then. I only just tried using the group matrix since the latest version as I required it for a project I was working on, so I had no reference on whether it had worked in the past. I've been trying to get onto Flux support for the last 2 weeks but haven't had any replies. Have you had any luck getting through Graemme?

[Snabbit]

Originally Posted by zenmastering

Hi Erin,

I've just loaded the latest beta version and the setup matrix problem is now fixed. This beta was only uploaded today and I have no idea when it is intended to be released.

Hi Graemme

They also sent me the latest beta and it's also fixed the problem for me.... which is great.

Thanks

Erin

[MatzeMillion]

Is anyone able to test the new flux update (2.1.19) with logic 9.1.3? I have serious issues with Alchemist. I can't use more than 3 bands. Band 4 and 5 are simply not working. Very strange.

Thanx!

[Surf Street Rec.]

Hey guys fast question for all of you Flux users. Would you recommend the limiter as a good brick wall to catch a few db's when i'm mastering?

Thanks,
Surf

[synthoid]

Originally Posted by Snabbit

Epure has a particular presence in the highs that definitely beat the sonnox eq to my ears and everything else I've thrown against it.

me too. and my assistant too. I want to believe the all-digital-eqs-are-the-same line, but dang this thing can be used to put air into a vocal like no other eq plug I've tried. It's really competitive with good hardware eqs in this dept. Well, without the mojo but still.

Solera is both the most complicated compressor I've ever used and also one of the best. You can use the expansion/downward features to get a combination of gating and compression out of it that can be really handy. These are absolutely first-rate plug-ins for mixing. Can't comment too much on mastering since I'm no pro at mastering, but I do like epure and the limiter on the rough masters I knock out.

-synthoid

[MatzeMillion]

Originally Posted by Surf Street Rec.

Hey guys fast question for all of you Flux users. Would you recommend the limiter as a good brick wall to catch a few db's when i'm mastering?

Thanks,
Surf

For pushing it just a few db it should work, its a very clean Limiter. But honestly... I think the Limiter is the weakest plugin of Flux compared to the others which are top notch!

But you really should try for yourself and you should probably try the FabFilter Limiter, too.

[Retrospekta]

Originally Posted by Gael Yvan

Hi all of you,

and, worth you will not get the desired spectrum response. for e.g. take the default preset on ReaXComp and just apply -12 dB at the output of the 3th band; see fig.1a & 1b and then look at what Alchemist is doing; fig.2a & 2b

ReaXcomp 4 Bands (-12 dB on 3th band (1000-5000 Hz))
fig.1a : Magnitude


fig.1b : ReaXcomp Phase


Alchemist 4 Bands - 18 dB per dec (-12 dB on 3th band (1000-5000 Hz))
fig.2a : Alchemist Magnitude


fig.2b : Alchemist Phase - Here you have a phase rotation at each crossover frequecy



With iZotope it's also other things: this is not the same crossover filter than Alchemist so not the same spectrum and phase response. iZotope crossover filter is Phase linear when you choose "Digital" type, near phase linear when type is "Hybrid" and not phase linear when type is "Analog".


Cheers,
Gael
Flux:: sound and picture development

shame the images have gone, it seems...

[Lagerfeldt]

Originally Posted by MatzeMillion

For pushing it just a few db it should work, its a very clean Limiter. But honestly... I think the Limiter is the weakest plugin of Flux compared to the others which are top notch!

But you really should try for yourself and you should probably try the FabFilter Limiter, too.

The Flux limiter is a bit long in the tooth now. The FabFilter Pro-L has surpassed it, indeed.

The Alchemist is still working out nicely here.

[Foldedpath]

Originally Posted by Lagerfeldt

The Flux limiter is a bit long in the tooth now. The FabFilter Pro-L has surpassed it, indeed.

Have you tried the more recent Flux Elixer? I've been demo'ing it along with the Pro-L, and I think it's very competitive. Does a nice job of holding transients with the multi-stage option.

[Jerry Tubb]

Fan of the Epure II EQ here, when I actually use a plug-in EQ ITB.

The HPF is particularly useful, cornered about 10-16Hz, and I like the parametric super tight notches for surgical problems.

I would like to see an Epure II "light" version with less bands, taking less screen real estate.

Scalable like the W*ves Ren EQ.

JT

[Lagerfeldt]

Originally Posted by Foldedpath

Have you tried the more recent Flux Elixer? I've been demo'ing it along with the Pro-L, and I think it's very competitive. Does a nice job of holding transients with the multi-stage option.

Yeah, I tried it.

[nomatic]

I actually like the Elixur better than the pro-L.......
My most used final plug after the analogue chain.

[bendermastering]

I like Flux:: a lot! I only wish that 64bit versions would come out. It's the only plugins in my studio that still run at 32bit.

The elixir is indeed great, the cleanest limiter out there!

[mastertone]

Yup! Elixir sounds terrific!
Now how about that 64 bit version...

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk

[dandeurloo]

Originally Posted by Lagerfeldt

The Flux limiter is a bit long in the tooth now. The FabFilter Pro-L has surpassed it, indeed.

The Alchemist is still working out nicely here.

What do you think of Epure compared to the FabFilter ProQ?

[Lagerfeldt]

I've not compared them - yet. A lot comes down to the workflow and interface since the sound will likely be quite similar apart from the linear phase mode(s).