Sonnox dynamics with warmth vs PSP Vintage Warmer

wildplum · 3rd April 2009

what is the difference between these two? if you already have the Sonnox, do you need the PSP?

kjg · 3rd April 2009

You definitely don't need the PSP, even if you don't have the Sonnox. Sonnox is a great tool though.
If the Vintagewarmer makes your mix sound better, take it off again, ... and keep mixing a bit longer

2Loud · 3rd April 2009

There is a difference for sure.

I loved V. Warmer at the beginning but now considering it as a "beware and think before use" - still beautiful, but not for my output Id say now after I know bit more.

...to get shiny crispyness on some channels - yes but not extra widely and using it with a real purpose..

Sonnox - well - no question. Unbeatable

all of it.
The Warmth in Dynamics is great for vocs Id say. Bringin it out..

hakim · 7th April 2009

Wow! I'm shocked, no one likes the PSP Vintage Warmer 2? I just got the thing and now I'm hearing such negative things about the PSP products..

cooker · 7th April 2009

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Originally Posted by hakim

Wow! I'm shocked, no one likes the PSP Vintage Warmer 2? I just got the thing and now I'm hearing such negative things about the PSP products..

PSP stuff in general are good (and is a good deal for the price) but every plug-in has its use for something different.

VW does bring out artifacts a lot considering what it also adds to the source. Its probably the best tool to check mixes before sending to mastering and also good with agressive tracks on mixes like guitars or drums.

rodreb · 7th April 2009

I use both. Each one is great for certain things. Neither one are great for everything. Just my personal opinion.

macc · 8th April 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by kjg

You definitely don't need the PSP, even if you don't have the Sonnox. Sonnox is a great tool though.
If the Vintagewarmer makes your mix sound better, take it off again, ... and keep mixing a bit longer

My feelings exactly!

EDIT - this is in a mastering context btw! Good for smashing drums etc. But not your mastering chain. Not at all

minister · 9th April 2009

If you use the Sonnox 'Warmth' function (which is supposed to simulate a tube microphone sonic signature) be SURE to take a break and come back to it later. Even the next day. You'd be surprised how your ears adapt to and crave it. Then when you come back for a fresh listen you go, "Ugh! What the hell is that doing on there?..." A tiny bit goes a LOOOONG way. And off is sometimes better.

I rarely if ever use it, and then only when something was poorly recorded.

I tried the PSP plugin-in and it sounded funny to my ears.

I would not use these in Mastering (unless it is all I had and there is no budget to go to a dedicated house)

The Cranesong Phoenix on the other hand..................THAT is on every mix I do.

3rd April 2009	#1
wildplum Gear addict Joined: Oct 2002 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 333 Thread Starter	Sonnox dynamics with warmth vs PSP Vintage Warmer what is the difference between these two? if you already have the Sonnox, do you need the PSP? __________________ Wildplum Recordings a micro label, studio and remote recording service

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rodreb Gear addict Joined: Aug 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 373	I use both. Each one is great for certain things. Neither one are great for everything. Just my personal opinion. __________________ ROD Imaginary Friend Recording http://www.myspace.com/imaginaryfriendrecording

9th April 2009	#8
minister Lives for gear Joined: Nov 2004 Location: minneapolis, mn Posts: 2,029	If you use the Sonnox 'Warmth' function (which is supposed to simulate a tube microphone sonic signature) be SURE to take a break and come back to it later. Even the next day. You'd be surprised how your ears adapt to and crave it. Then when you come back for a fresh listen you go, "Ugh! What the hell is that doing on there?..." A tiny bit goes a LOOOONG way. And off is sometimes better. I rarely if ever use it, and then only when something was poorly recorded. I tried the PSP plugin-in and it sounded funny to my ears. I would not use these in Mastering (unless it is all I had and there is no budget to go to a dedicated house) The Cranesong Phoenix on the other hand..................THAT is on every mix I do. __________________ Tom Hambleton CAS Ministry of Fancy Noises IMDb Undertone on Facebook Undertone on Vimeo

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kjg Lives for gear Joined: May 2008 Location: Amsterdam, NL Posts: 937	You definitely don't need the PSP, even if you don't have the Sonnox. Sonnox is a great tool though. If the Vintagewarmer makes your mix sound better, take it off again, ... and keep mixing a bit longer

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2Loud Lives for gear Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 569 1 Review written	There is a difference for sure. I loved V. Warmer at the beginning but now considering it as a "beware and think before use" - still beautiful, but not for my output Id say now after I know bit more. ...to get shiny crispyness on some channels - yes but not extra widely and using it with a real purpose.. Sonnox - well - no question. Unbeatable all of it. The Warmth in Dynamics is great for vocs Id say. Bringin it out..

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hakim Gear maniac Joined: Nov 2008 Location: New York, NY Posts: 237	Wow! I'm shocked, no one likes the PSP Vintage Warmer 2? I just got the thing and now I'm hearing such negative things about the PSP products..